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Comment: Re:I bet Infosys and Tata are dancing in the stree (Score 1) 179

Sound like a legitimate argument to me, that needs a serious refutation if you disagree with him.

Title 8 of the US Code is 1000 pages long. We have more than enough laws on the books about immigration.

What he's really saying is that Congress hasn't given him a law that he likes, so he's writing his own. Which even he admits isn't actually within his authority, but he's betting that nobody will be able to stop him.

Comment: Re:I bet Infosys and Tata are dancing in the stree (Score 1) 179

Still, the complaint is not that he doesn't do anything with the laws that the Congress passes, the complaint is that Congress doesn't pass any laws that address important issues.

There are already plenty of laws addressing immigration that the President has chosen to ignore. Claiming that Congress should be passing more laws on the subject is a little silly -- if the President doesn't like them, what's to stop him from ignoring them too?

Comment: Re:Comcast tried to steal $50 from me (Score 1) 223

by aardvarkjoe (#48383277) Attached to: Overbilled Customer Sues Time Warner Cable For False Advertising

Fraud is an intentional tort. If they never intend to give the rebate for all eligible people, then it is fraud if they then do not actually do it (even if you don't complain). If not enough money is allocated up front, and if they run out of money to pay all the eligible rebates they receive, then it seems to me to be fraud (although IANAL)...

Well, the question comes down to what happens if every single person actually does comply with the terms of the rebate and requests it. It seems like either some party (either the company that offered the rebate, or the company that the rebate handling was outsourced to) will be forced to cough up the extra money to cover every rebate, or they will fail to pay out the rebates.

You seem to be assuming that the latter is the guaranteed result, but I don't see that it is. I'm not privy to the details of these contracts, but I would be amazed if they don't, as a general rule, spell out who is responsible for costs that exceed the expected cost of the rebate program.

Comment: Re:Comcast tried to steal $50 from me (Score 1) 223

by aardvarkjoe (#48379977) Attached to: Overbilled Customer Sues Time Warner Cable For False Advertising

Outsourcing and incentivizing itself isn't fraudulent (just shady), but the reason that it's often fraudulent is that the allocated pool of money to the external marketing firm is never enough to cover the worst case, so they are effectively going into the promotion with the deliberate intent to defraud customers of the rebate and the original company doesn't indemnify the external company for worst-case shortfall (because they don't trust these shady rebate companies enough to think they won't just claim/pocket the money).

If the people who apply for the rebate get the promised rebate, then how could you possibly claim that anyone is being defrauded?

Comment: Re:Comcast tried to steal $50 from me (Score 1) 223

by aardvarkjoe (#48379789) Attached to: Overbilled Customer Sues Time Warner Cable For False Advertising

Because as you say the companies are actively planning to make the advertised price/rebate not possible, or very complicated for the customer to get.

I didn't say that at all. Doing that would be fraud, and should be prosecuted under existing laws. But there are plenty of times when obtaining a rebate is straightforward, and you want to make those illegal as well.

For the customers to compare products, with such complicated pricing schemes is just not feasible; it would take days to evaluate.

Well, I'm assuming people who can look at an advertised price of $X ($Y before rebate) and make a comparison, which is how most rebate offers that I see are advertised. If it takes you days to do that comparison, you probably are not qualified to be handling money at all.

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