Or bought email lists of out of date whois data, and use thisisfake.email@something.tld and then try and use that list via hotmail of top billionaire business contacts.

You thought logwatch was boring ?

I am surprised HP has 'support' at all. Some years ago family member bought a hp laptop. He used the online help im feature once, and since he was not an american was told no help was available via the oem of windows that hp 'insist' on providing and not customising for the eu.

His next pc wont be from HP for some reason

I have no desire to make copyright barons (murdoch/comcast) richer for a few shows i hear about.
We assume we have 'power' over what is seen - i doubt that, liberal arts majors can be stupid.
My newspaper does not cover all the channels on offer for 'free'
If ac nelson can prove to some tv retard that 'dancing with chickens' is better than star trek.... in the 1960's

There are some producers of tv content that do deserve support, however if the copyright barons, and demographics co's decide its not getting enough tampon purchasers and kill it then i honesty dont see it as my problem.

We can get it at our business, but for you yanks its an extra $150 usd setup, and then the charge per month with caps.

I enquired with our good award winning isp [so not bt or virgin] who's salesman via email gave me a very generic information which i could probably find on there website. Telling me that its pppoe rather than ppoa was way too technical by this genius. So i now know what routers need which might be important, i made a point of asking them, and was not impressed.

Since the salesman was not bothered we then decided to not to bother and keep with our 'slow' link that does everything we mostly want it too.

I'm not convinced that super fast something is something of benefit. Put another way suppose i want the latest iso of linux mint, i can run that as an overnight task and make dvd or usb stick in the morning.

Like British Telecom in the uk for its broadband clients. Maybe outsourcing email may cost them a huge amount of time and hassle, unless they join the bidders for say the bits of yahoo they deem of value.

I had this 'issue' with another social site in document sharing. I did not login and did not spend any money with the theatre who's document i could not read.

Quite how a website cannot serve a public pdf file without a facebook login seemed odd.

OK some of hp greps linux [printers and enterprise], but at a 'consumer level' its all windows.

I use a lot of linux, but at a consumer level who buys hp computers for technical support. Can consumer support at hp do linux and windows ?

Our business left bt for dsl stuff many years ago when there dns server got stolen, unfortunately bt decided not to replace it and we noticed since we had dns records that where then gone. Paying by direct debit [cheques cost to much money to process at bt] also annoyed accounts and the owner.

We pay line rental via our phone providers to bt via openreach and have found life without British Telecom to be very pleasant and we talk to local staff who know things not that we ring them up very often.

I also see a lot of mobile phones which since can do both phone things and internet stuff and take pictures probably suits a lot people for there needs, no shared pc issues either. BT's recent attempt to sell pay tv was also comical. Sport fans would have to have bought everything [phone,broadband,tv] just to get 'soccer'. If some idiot mba at bt thinks that the us cable business operation is what consumers want then good for BT, since I read us cable is losing clients and not a growth industry.

I cannot get virgin cable, nor do i have the other pay tv provider.

Not everyone can get 'cable' to describe virgin cable as nationwide would be a mistake.

I recently tried to obtain a theatre like pdf file (looked like it). The 'social media' like site wanted me to login to facebook to do anything with the file. I declined the opportunity to do that. No doubt i must be mad.