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Comment Re:Maybe stop graduating students who aren't (Score 1) 141

You just touched on something that has been pointed out to me as a reason why international education comparisons are flawed - The US tries to teach everyone; other countries send kids with weaker grades to trade schools from primary instead of into high schools. I'm not sure our approach is better. I'm also not sure we're that different, a bunch of kids at my high school went to BOCES (votech) instead of regular classes.

Anyhow, you may have a point with maybe sending them somewhere else if they fail, but that place must not be a university. That's just a stupid waste of resources and limited applicant slots.

But the most important thing to recognize is that the approach that has been tried for the last 30+ years has been an utter failure and needs to be immediately abandoned before it ruins more lives. Right now, the school systems are run by people unable or unwilling to recognize that glaring fact. Start failing students again instead of graduating them and then figure out how to better handle failures. The old way was definitely flawed, but it was better than what we have now.

Comment Re:Teachers who fail kids look bad (Score 1) 141

I'm fine with giving teachers bonuses for good performance, there just needs to be some mechanism to prevent cheating. Which has been an issue in nearby (to me) Atlanta. I wouldn't want to just fire teachers for being the worst at a school, I can envision a great school where the worst teacher is better than any I ever had. But some way to remove bad teachers with tenure must exist. These aren't university professors for whom tenure was invented and makes some sense, these are primary and secondary teachers and I see no justification for granting them that sort of protection.

The last one is actually the cheapest and easiest, if the will exists in your State legislature. They can pass a law restricting the things for which a school can be sued. They could grant teachers qualified immunity for smacking students.

Now let me check and see if I'm lying...

There are 15 States in the US where corporal punishment in schools is legal. Three of those don't do it, four don't allow it if the student is disabled, and eight allow it whenever. I had no idea, but it is still happening. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Comment Re:Yawn (Score 1) 124

I suspect the cars were produced for export, but the intended markets won't allow them in, because it would clearly be dumping. Either that, or China was trying to produce examples for a book about why planned economies are bad.

Comment Re:Planned economies (Score 1) 124

Yes, they make their decisions based upon a wide variety of factors. Central planners tend to consider fewer factors, or simply the wrong factors. For example, the CCP doesn't seem to have considered consumer behavior, and thus produced very many more cars than can be sold.

Comment Re:Teachers who fail kids look bad (Score 1) 141

Don't fall for the "teachers aren't paid" line. Maybe increase their starting salary, but they're actually paid pretty well. For the most part, a teacher's salary is the average salary for the district. In some places that means $40k/y, some places that means $75+k/y, it all depends on where the district is. And they get the summers off.

Cops and firefighters are usually on the same pay schedule (civil service is like that) and work much longer and harder hours. It ain't the pay.

Comment Re:Maybe stop graduating students who aren't (Score 1) 141

The attitude of those teachers and administrators is a major problem. What good does it do to fail them? They have to try again until they get it right, and thus actually learn something in the process. Passing them anyway means they don't learn anything, and nobody will get anything out of it. Well, the people being paid to fail at teaching them benefit, but they're the only ones and shouldn't be paid for that anyhow.

It's an awful situation that they put themselves in and don't understand how to get back out of. The sad fact is that they will never get it right and simply need to be replaced by people who aren't stupid.

Honestly, if they're "just going to drop out anyway", let them drop out. Stop wasting their time, the school's time, and the taxpayer's dollars trying to keep them somewhere they don't want to be. Especially since I'm sure many of them are making it harder for other students to learn.

Comment Re:Maybe stop graduating students who aren't (Score 1) 141

Who thinks we have the best education system anywhere? I've never heard that from anyone, ever. The closest I've ever heard anyone argue was, "it's not actually as bad as it looks when compared to other nations".

Were they speaking specifically about post-secondary education? We do have the top universities.

Comment Re:If only there was a way to TEST for this... (Score 2) 141

Kids who weren't sufficiently educated to graduate high school are not going to magically become good students just because they've been placed in the role of college student. I don't know why you think it would. Do you have any evidence that suggests a kid who failed to learn for 12 years would suddenly do a 180 in year 13? And be able to catch back up?

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