Comment Ignore this fossil fuel shill (was Re:Suspicious) (Score 1) 88
You didn’t “raise concerns.” You ran the full fossil-fuel-shill playbook: swap global system-level data for isolated anecdotes, misstate the claims in the articles, throw in some turbine panic, and hope nobody notices the pivot. Nobody compresses this many logical fallacies and misdirections into one post by accident.
Read the article, couple pretty graphs from a group called Ember which I never heard of.
Not knowing a research group is not a rebuttal. Ember is literally one of the main global electricity-market data aggregators used by IEA, IRENA, and multiple national regulators. If your argument starts with “I’ve never heard of them,” it’s already off the rails.
Why am I suspicious. Well here is an actual buildout of a 1.2GW fossil plant for a data center.
A captive industrial PPA for a hyperscaler is not a global trend. It’s a hyper-specific procurement project servicing one load spike. Pointing at a single dedicated 1.2 GW plant to disprove global generation trends is statistical malpractice — the equivalent of claiming one guy buying a Hummer disproves EV adoption.
Lets do the numbers. 1.2GW x 24 x 365 = 10.5TWh.
Yes — that’s the annual output of one privately contracted facility. The articles are discussing net global generation and net additions, measured in hundreds of TWh and hundreds of GW. Your “math” here isn’t wrong; it’s irrelevant to the claim -- typical smokescreen from a typical shill.
Musk added temp gen's for the memphis DC and some are still running.
Temporary gensets at data centers prove exactly one thing: data-center load is growing faster than local grid interconnects. This is just more misdirection and obfuscation. You are talking about planning lag and hyperscaler impatience, not about worldwide fossil demand. Hospitals have backup generators too; that doesn’t mean the grid doesn’t exist.
We also know turbines are back ordered and in fact several are using old jet engines to spin generators for power.
Yes — because AI load is exploding faster than turbine manufacturing capacity. That’s not “renewables aren’t growing,” it’s “the fossil sector can’t scale production fast enough even with unlimited demand.” You’ve taken evidence of strain and tried to reframe it as evidence of resurgence.
So while the graphs are pretty, other on the ground facts tell me the graphs are not accurate.
Your anecdotes describe a single industrial sector’s procurement scramble, not global electricity generation trends. You are trying to change the subject, like the obedient fossil fuel industry shill that you are. The graphs are accurate; they’re just describing the system as a whole, not the narrow slice you want to talk about. This is called "cherry picking" by the way; if there was any doubt about your fossil fuel industry bias, you just put it to rest right here.
I just am not hearing of gas plants being retired
Then widen your sources. FERC, EIA, MISO, SPP, PJM, ERCOT, and multiple state regulators have published retirement schedules and net declines in fossil capacity. Coal is retiring fastest; gas is flattening. Your “not hearing” is a function of selective inputs, not empirical data.
but I have heard of coal plants coming back to you guessed it, power data centers.
Show the filings. A handful of emergency restarts or industrial-PPA one-offs does not constitute a “coal comeback.” Net coal capacity has declined every year for a decade, and FERC projects further contraction. A few noisy exceptions do not overturn the aggregate. The real story is solar and wind are rolling out grid scale installations faster than the fossil fuel industry can roll out peaker plants, and doing it more cheaply as well -- even when demand is through the roof and cost is not an issue. The writing is on the wall for fossil fuel peakers.
In a bucket: Solar + wind added more new electricity than global demand growth in 2025. Fossil stayed flat. Coal fell below total renewables for the first time.
Your post swaps out global system-level data for hyperscaler procurement anecdotes and tries to pass it off as contradiction. The only thing you successfully disproved is your own objectivity.