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Comment: Re:Wrong by law (Score 1) 601

by ricosalomar (#44131829) Attached to: Edward Snowden is ...
I sometimes get confused on the definitions: morality vs ethics.
As I see it, morality (and mores) is derived from an adherence to laws of some kind, be they societal, religious, dogmatic, or what have you. In fact, morality is traditionally law-based.
Where ethics is a system arrived at from personal experience.
Thus the morality of an act may depend on how it relates to scripture, or societal rules, and the ethics of an act are cognitively defined.
One could say that it is immoral to kill, because many religions have a strong "do not kill" clause. Yet religion is a very popular theme in most mass killings, with the killers citing relevant religious codes as confirmation of their morality.
Where an ethical decision might be that, under the circumstances, it is better to kill bad guys than good guys.
We can argue ethics, but not morality.

+ - T-Modile outage in NC and VA

Submitted by ricosalomar
ricosalomar (630386) writes "Haven't seen anything about this on the webs yet, but this is what I got from T-Mobile support:
EFFECTIVE DATE: 11/16/11 OUTAGE TYPE: 3G Data, 4G Data, EDGE/GPRS, Voice ....................................................................................................................................................................................
MARKET AFFECTED: VIRGINIA, CAROLINA ....................................................................................................................................................................................
CUSTOMER IMPACT: Voice and Data Outage

PROBLEM: T-Mobile subscribers in North Carolina may experience a loss of both voice and data services.

MARKET/SERVICE IMPACTS TO: Global / SMS
CAUSE: n/a

RESOLUTION:
1.) TT 3478852 is open for this issue.
2.) No examples are needed.

- JSR — 11/16/11 @ 1119 AM EST ....................................................................................................................................................................................
ETR: None ....................................................................................................................................................................................
ACTION STEPS: Please do not call or transfer to Technical Support, advise the customer our engineering department is working on a resolution."

Comment: Re:An obvious reminder (Score 1) 182

by ricosalomar (#37424018) Attached to: Famous Wildlife Photographer Busted For Using Stock Images
I shouldn't have used the word automatic; I meant reflexive or involuntary.
These are some quasi-clincal definitions that seem to agree with what I learned back when I studied psych:

Direct identification with, understanding of, and vicarious experience of another person's situation, feelings, and motives.

AND

emotional awareness and understanding of another person's thoughts, feelings, and behavior, even those that are distressing and disturbing. Empathy emphasizes understanding; sympathy emphasizes sharing of another person's feelings and experiences.

Both of the above are from the medical section here. Note that the one you cited and the first of these both use the word vicarious, which seems (to me, anyway) to imply an emotional, rather than cognitive response. But perhaps you see it differently.

Clinically speaking, sociopathy is related to ASPD (antisocial personality disorder), and is defined in both the DSM-IV and the ICD-10, the latter of which lists the first criterion as:

Callous unconcern for the feelings of others and lack of the capacity for empathy.

Sympathy is not included in either manuals' definition.

Lack of empathy is also specifically associated with Psychopathy and Narcissistic personality disorder.

See WIKI

I might have empathy for a serial killer, in that I may wince if he were to get stuck with a pin (a reflexive response), but I may not have sympathy for him, because I cognitively determine that he deserves it.

More importantly, who remembers the awesome Star Trek (tos) episode, The Empath ? I think that clears it up perfectly.

Comment: Re:An obvious reminder (Score 1, Insightful) 182

by ricosalomar (#37418572) Attached to: Famous Wildlife Photographer Busted For Using Stock Images
That's not really what empathy is. Think of empathy as an automatic response, like when you wince when you see someone get a paper cut, or get kicked it the nuts.
Sympathy is more intellectual, you consider the circumstances, and cognitively place yourself in the situation.
Then you weigh whether the person deserves your sympathy. This is where your ethical beliefs may come in to play.
Or you could think of it this way: A person without sympathy is a hard-ass, while a person without empathy is a sociopath.

If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. -- Albert Einstein

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