Bah! The issue of trolling seems stupid when you consider the title of this submission claims it's an "Linux Migration".

The linux migration part is a flop so far but people don't want to admit it and the linux crowd is riding the coat tails of OpenOffice.org and Mozilla trying to get some credit. This is a successful open source migration. It's just that while OpenOffice.org and Mozilla showed up and were the belle's of the ball, linux got drunk, started talking shit and just embarrassed itself.

Maybe instead of dropping the GNU in GNU/Linux, we should drop the other part.

I don't like bashing linux but if half the people that claim it's better than windows on the desktop put their efforts into improving it instead of talking about how great it is, things would be different.

It's not the fans.

You don't mess with people that blow stuff up for a living.

Even if they're nerds.

Yeah, stupid scientists working on solving a problem that's already been solved and people in these climates are only milking this "we don't have clean water" deal to get their less than a cup of coffee a day money from us. I mean a solar powered optical device that can view below the surface of water should have solved all these problems. Or did you mean hygroscopic?

If a joke falls in the forest and nobody laughs was it really a joke?

Don't be one of those guys that is wrong and then winds up looking even more foolish trying to prove that he wasn't THAT wrong. Or start a collection to buy a whole lot of cups and take your troop out to the desert and start generating the water for people to drink and grow crops because the world isn't getting any bigger and while the number of people living on it is.

I'm thinking they didn't put enough resources into ZFS?

From http://zfs.macosforge.org/trac/wiki

Even the BSD folks have more than one developer working on the ZFS BSD port. Although I must commend him for not using "we" to make himself sound bigger than he is.

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You must have read the wrong article. They never claimed it was magic.

P.S. Claiming you haven't read the article doesn't absolve you if you make a mistake.

I think it's more than just the brand. It's also the marketing. Saying "free as in freedom, not free as in beer" turns off a lot of potential customers because their proprietary software vendors provide them with free beer and strippers.

An object that can hold that many bytes. You're not allocating anything directly. The JVM handles that.

You don't get to that memory, you get to that object. It just happens to be stored in memory but it could be stored on stone tablets if that was possible..

As a java developer, you don't have pointers, which you keep going back to. You have object references. Behind the scenes there are likely pointers but you don't get access to them. You're arguing that it was done for security instead of ease for the programmer which is missing the point. Keeping your code secure by preventing memory leaks and illegal memory access is difficult and time consuming. By fixing one, you get the other. Which was the motivating factor is only something Gosling can answer.

The point is in Java applications, you can still have "memory leaks". The difference is in Java, those leaks result in poor resource management and bloated programs. What you don't get is the security risks that poor memory management in C/C++ can give you.

You don't need a garbage collector for the type of security you're talking about. Java could have had a free operator that would point all references to null and handle the security issues, but it would make things difficult for the developer.

And how was he going to get windows back on it? Just because he's a thief, doesn't mean he's a pirate. :)

A customer is someone that pays you for goods and services. Not someone that sends you an email.

If you want to ignore everything this "customer" asked and just answer what you think he asked you can make up anything you want. Just like you did.

Pfft. You need to keep up. The future of data center cooling is oil.

Personally, I prefer bacon fat for the extra flavor.

It doesn't matter. Biden was probably wrong.

In an enterprise desktop environment, you don't want to have a repository where users can pull software updates, you want a system where you can push them onto user desktops. I think there are some now but they've only come to market recently. IBM could have helped out by coming out with Linux support for Tivoli provisioning manager much sooner.

For a majority of enterprise users, just having a good office suite, web browser and groupware would be sufficient but only 2 out of the 3 were available in a working state until recently.

The big boys in groupware were Outlook/Exchange and Notes/Domino. Exchange quickly ate into Domino's market and by the time IBM started supporting Linux with Notes clients it was too late. If Linux does get more adoption in corporate desktops the groupware they'll be using will likely be Zimbra or something other than Domino or Novell's products.

Sun's Java Enterprise System could have worked since it was web based, but they didn't have the resources to come into the market compete with two already large players. Plus there's a general anti-sun sentiment in the Linux community.

That's just for regular office workers. When you mix in others that might need other special software, you can run into problems.

Most people don't care about the OS, they only care about the applications they interact with. If the applications aren't there it doesn't matter if you have the most perfect OS that has ever or will ever be written.

Linux became popular on edge servers because it could provide services through applications (Apache server and other ASF stuff, MySQL, sendmail, Samba, ftp, etc.) that run on it

Those applications brought open source into the business world and Linux came along for the ride. Then once Linux was in the corporate data center, other ISVs started releasing version of their enterprise server software for it.

There hasn't been enough ISV support for desktop Linux. It's also more difficult because desktops tend to run a variety of software, unlike servers that are commonly deployed with a limited software stack for one application.

I'd like to see it happen, but it's not quite there yet. It's good to see that open source desktop software is making it, but Linux hasn't been invited to this party yet.

I don't know how much clearer it could be.

Yeah... why assume they're asking for what they mentioned? Why not just assume they mean something other than what they said.

Doesn't have to be 11+k could be anywhere around that number. How about 5k? Can you find any Win/Office to Linux/OO.o migrations for regular government office workers at that time?

The email was a follow up question to the study. The guy wasn't being hired as a consultant or analyst to create a detailed analysis to find answers to his question.

And that's what he did.

You can't blame people's stupidity on MS.

Would you mind posting examples of your OO.o network diagrams? I was looking for examples a while ago and couldn't find any good ones. Also, do you just use generic shapes or have you found a set of images that work together?