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Journal pudge's Journal: Christianity and Charity 12

Many people attack the "Christian right" because they don't support using the government to help people in poverty. They say Christ told us to help the poor, so therefore Christians should support federal welfare and the taxes to support it.

As one liberal critic noted, "There is nothing in the Bible that supports tax cuts for the wealthy along with social service cuts for the poor. That's an inversion of all those scriptural statements on poverty..."

Apart from the sheer hypocrisy many such critics exemplify -- these are normally the same people who decry attempts to legislate religious beliefs -- it displays a fundamental misunderstanding of Christ's words, Republicanism, or both.

It is true that Christ called people to help the poor. What is not true is that he implied in any way that this should be done through the government. Indeed, if anything, it is the opposite, as the early churches were the instruments of charity. There are many reasons for this, but one that I'll make note of is the idea that charity is most effective -- on both the spiritual and material levels -- when it is performed more directly.

As to Republicanism, we must first identify the belief that the power to perform charity and welfare are, by the Constitution, reserved to the states, and not to the federal government. This was clearly the belief of the people who wrote, signed, and originally interpreted and defended the Constitution.

Simply put, many of us on the right are not against government welfare entirely, but a. against it being done on the federal level, b. in favor of all charity being done as locally as possible. We are much more open to charity in the state governments than the federal, but prefer it be done privately, directly, locally.

So when you see all this hand-wringing nonsense from the left, saying that the election of Bush represents a "a disparagement of the significance of the social fabric," ignore it, as they clearly don't understand the real point.

However, if you know a Christian who does not perform charity (this would most likely be yourself, since most charity is not performed in public), feel free to chastise him for not living up to the deal.

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  • by kikta ( 200092 ) * on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @08:31PM (#10837492)
    Apart from the sheer hypocrisy many such critics exemplify -- these are normally the same people who decry attempts to legislate religious beliefs -- it displays a fundamental misunderstanding of Christ's words, Republicanism, or both.

    It's also amusing that they're seeking to take away a person's right to choose where/who they want their money to go to (or even their right to give it in the first place).

    And this is from the "pro-choice" party.
    • This expresses my biggest beef with the Democratic party...I give more to charities than most of my Democrat friends, but I don't believe in mandating the removal of cash from my pocket. Charity should absolutely be a choice, if for no other reason than so that you can decide who it goes to. The welfare system has problems...people that don't deserve it, stay on it too long, etc.

      --trb
  • by yuri benjamin ( 222127 ) <yuridg@gmail.com> on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @08:35PM (#10837536) Journal
    Although they probably won't admit it, liberals do not want the church to be the main source of charity. That would give those christians way too much influence over people.

    I am an example of this. I came back to my faith at a time when I was down and out and the people who helped me most were christians. New Zealand is probably more of a welfare state than the USA, but due to my circumstances at the time, I didn't meet the criteria for emergency assistance from the state.

    Yuri
    • came back to my faith

      Good news! I'm glad to hear it. I also had a period of "awww screw it" and did whatever the heck I wanted to do. Fortunately for me, I flunked out of college because I played too many computer games (4-8 hours a day) and drank a lot, which shook things up a bit and made me realize where I was not going (that is to say, nowhere usefull). My instrument to getting a bit more on track was hanging out with a lot of the great guys and men in my church's Men's minestry.

      jason
    • If liberals truly don't want the church to be the main source of charity, they are perfectly free to form non-profit (or for-profit!) organizations that do charity work. Christians are quite tolerant of such organizations, and in fact like them a lot. Everyone's happy.

  • Do the feds (+states?) give out 2x, 10x, 100x or 1/10th, 1/100th as much money as religious charities to the poor?

    To my pragmatic mind, some sense of magnitude of current activity would be useful in weighing what sort of policy would be best for the poor.

    And I haven't seen any real data on this subject (but have run across varying unsupported assumptions on both sides.)

    --LP
    • Private charities: more than $126 Billion [ncpa.org] in 1993.

      I don't have the expertise/time to tease the numbers out of the state and federal budgets. However, I'm sure it is more. 10-20x, were I to guess.

      Questions to ask: Which form of giving is more effective? (Greater % actually gets to valid receipient) Which form has less chance of fraud? Which form is less degrading/dehumanizing[1] to the receipient? Which form are people more likely to think of as a gift/tide me over vs. an "entitlement"? How much more would

      • One tiny snapshot: County of Tulare Budget 2002-2003 [tulare.ca.us]You need to hit the zoom button to see things decently.

        Of almost $615 million, $234 million went to welfare et. al. Another $135 million went to Health and Sanitation - which seems kind of dodgy to me, as Health is a part of the Health, Welfare, and Mental Health department, and Sanitation is a part of Public Works. (Unless... HHSA also includes Environmental Health - water well inspection, underground tank permits, restaurant permits; so maybe that is be

      • Yeah! Though I agree with the constitutional argument that the federal government should not be so involved, I think the effectiveness argument is much more persuasive. Unfortunately, any suggestion that the federal governemnt cut back on the entitlements culture gets you branded uncaring, greedy, on and on by the liberals. The name calling is easy enough to ignore, but the frustrating part is that they just don't seem to understand (or want to understand) that it's not remotely that conservatives don't
  • Forced Charity (Score:2, Insightful)

    by giverson ( 532542 ) *
    The Bible says "Thou shalt not steal" not "Thou shalt not steal unless you plan to give some of it to the poor."

    Forcibly taking money from someone who rightfully earned it is always wrong, even if you plan to give it to the poor.
  • Here is some questions for my liberal friends to consider:

    What is more compassionate: Giving more money to welfare recipients, or jump starting the economy through tax cuts to create jobs to get more people off of welfare?

    Which does more for that person's dignity: Getting a free handout from the Federal Government, or the satisfaction of an honestly earned paycheck?

    Which respects the humanity of a person more: Telling that person that they can't succeed in life unless you help them (through increased w

  • And here's something interesting. [cataloguef...thropy.org] Scroll down that list until you find a blue state.

    Interesting, no?

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