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Journal pudge's Journal: Dean is winning! 12

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Dean has more delegates than any other candidate, including Kerry. Kerry has 94, while Dean has 113. Of course, 2161 delegates are needed, and most of Dean's delegates are "unpledged".

These unpledged "superdelegates" -- delegates who are not selected through primaries, but go to the convention automatically because of their standing in the party (governors, senators, party officials, etc.) -- can change their informal support at any time, so they really don't count yet (as some will surely change their preferences over time). So really, Kerry is winning, but hey, Dean supporters, take what you can get! ;-)

Also take note that Kucinich has exactly one delegate who is not himself. Heh heh heh.

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  • Hi,

    I just wonder if the typical republican considers Dean as the most presedential of the Democratic party, or perhaps the most threatning contender for Bush? From my independant perspective, it seems as if Dean is the most republican of the democats (sorta like how FreeBSD is the most Linux-like of the BSD's). In this way I see a lot of republicans talking about Dean. I might be totally off base here, but this is the observation I have. To Deans credit, he did do the Dailly show with Jon Stewart, which is
    • Actually, to tell you the truth, there is a bit of a love - hate relationship with Dean. A, we love him cause if he gets the nomination Bush should have nothing to worry about. B, we hate him cause he's a flipping idiot, who if Bush totally screwed up (unlikely) would be in office.

      Dean wants to always have us go ask mommy UN if we are allowed to do anything. That alone makes him unfit for presidential material, willing to give up our sovereignty to an organization that is unwilling to stand up and enfor
      • "Dean wants to always have us go ask mommy UN if we are allowed to do anything."

        Got a quote to back that up?

        • http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3742768&p 1=0

          Come on Jamie... punch it into google. Or possibley try something other than moveon.org and friends for political commentary.
          • Thanks, but I don't see where Dean said anything like what you said.

            I'm sure he regrets using the word "permission," because it gets some people mighty mad. But ignore the single poorly-chosen word for a second. The context is that he (correctly) thought Iraq was not a significant threat to the United States.

            I think what you meant to say is that you reserve the right of the United States unilaterally to launch an aggressive war against any sovereign nation, kill its citizens, and overthrow its governmen

            • The context is that he (correctly) thought Iraq was not a significant threat to the United States.

              The problem is that no matter how you try to interpret his words, they make no sense for a President to say, unless you believe he didn't mean what he said. If he believes Iraq is NOT a threat, and therefore only would have gone in with permission, then he is saying he would use military force even when American interests are not threatened, which is irresponsible.
            • Well, lets see, Dean says the word permission, but I never said, "I think what you meant to say is that you reserve the right of the United States unilaterally to launch an aggressive war against any sovereign nation, kill its citizens, and overthrow its government, whether that nation poses us a threat or not, and that Dean has said in this one instance (Iraq) that he found that course of action unwise. Therefore you think he's not patriotic enough. Right?"

              Who are you going to trust? :-P

              Intelligence repo
              • "The US (and any sovereign nation) reserves the right to unilaterally (or with a coalition) launch an aggressive war against any other sovereign nation (who has been reprimanded for its own violent history, say at least 17 times by the UN)..."

                Ahh, so you don't think the U.S. has any right to invade any country unless the U.N. reprimands them. Thanks for clarifying.

                • Okey, you got me there. I guess I'll have to pull a Dean and clarify there. I do not think the UN should have to be consulted (its a nicety, not a requirement). I see I was evidently mixing issues there, one being Iraq in particular, and two being a nation's right to tell the UN to kiss off.
          • *tweeeeet*

            Two minutes for roughing! Keep the elbows down, let's keep the game clean.
    • I just wonder if the typical republican considers Dean as the most presedential of the Democratic party, or perhaps the most threatning contender for Bush?

      Neither. I think he is considered just about the least Presidential of the major candidates, and the general perception is that he would be one of the easiest to beat.

      From my independant perspective, it seems as if Dean is the most republican of the democats

      I don't see it. He wants to raise everyone's taxes, he wants to have universal health care,

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