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Journal pudge's Journal: 9/11 Miniseries 15

My theory is that this 9/11 miniseries is far more critical of Bush than of Clinton, and that the Democrats are taking a page out of the Karl Rove playbook, complaining in order to drum up publicity for it, so more people watch it, and thereby get fed the anti-Bush propaganda.

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9/11 Miniseries

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  • ... if that were the case. The radical left seems to be calling the shots in that party right now, and they've never managed to put the bongs down long enough to formulate such a politically astute plan.
  • Karl Rove wasn't directly responsible for the Plame leak but somehow got Richard Armitage [foxnews.com] to do his dirty work.
  • No no no, you have it all wrong. Rove anonymously leaked it to the Dems that it slammed the GOP more, thus tricking them decrying it from the Clinton point of view to get people to watch it slam Bush. But it really praises Bush and won't the Dems be surprised.... Now THAT would be vintage Rove.
  • But obviously ROVE has his fingers in this too -- why else would Bush schedule his 9/11 speech on the 2nd day of the telecast? Let everyone watch the first half (which would feature the parts critical of the pre-Bush era). Then interrupt the 2nd part with a speech so no-one SEES the parts critical of Bush.

    Rove... a true EVIL genius.
  • Even the 9/11 commissioners are wondering where this stuff came from and they have good ties with the Repubs.

    It probably is politically skewed as the producer has strong conservative ties. Producer generally equals financier and it wouldn't be unthinkable that the Republicans are trying to "make the people understand why they need us" by drumming up fear before an election cycle that they are percieved as having a problem in.
    • by pudge ( 3605 ) *
      Even the 9/11 commissioners are wondering where this stuff came from and they have good ties with the Repubs.

      Actually, no, the chairman of the committee is a consultant on the movie, and he says the movie is good, or something.

      It probably is politically skewed as the producer has strong conservative ties.

      I don't think there's remotely enough evidence to support this claim.

      I know little about the film, except about this one scene, and as I pointed out, the left is protesting WAY too much, because the 9/11 Re
      • Clinton deserves blame for a lot of stuff. I am not a huge fan of his. He pushed for the clipper chip. He didn't veto the DMCA. He authorized bombings of places whose actual military value is still in question.

        Again, not a Clinton fan. But I am even less of a Bush fan. The clipper chip is nothing compared to the Patriot Act and warrantless wiretapping and warrantless massive tap and traces of the entire populace. And poor target acquisition is nothing compared to waging an undending war against an adv
        • by pudge ( 3605 ) *
          I still know of only one example where the Patriot Act does something I think is Bad (extending FISA to non-foreign surveillance) and the NSA wiretapping deal is, from what I can tell so far, perfectly legal and proper.

          *shrug*
          • It is illegal to put a trace on a call without a warrant. The records of all the calls in the US effectively are traces on ALL the calls in the US. This happened without even a FISA warrant and, hence, is probably illegal. We'll see what the courts say, but Qwests information is potentially enlightening. When Qwest was a little sheepish about handing over the records and asked for a warrant, the Administration balked. Then Qwest asked for at least a official memo from the Justice Department that was al
            • by pudge ( 3605 ) *
              It is illegal to put a trace on a call without a warrant.

              Stated categorically as you just did, that is not true. And what's more, it's never been true. Perhaps you mean calls in the U.S., but even that is a highly questionable statement.

              The records of all the calls in the US effectively are traces on ALL the calls in the US.

              No. That simply is not true. Courts have upheld the authority to get records of calls, and there's no reason to think they won't continue to do so. And in this case, it's even diffe
              • Actually, really good points.

                I hadn't looked at it that way.
                • by pudge ( 3605 ) *
                  Speaking of Sept. 11 ... I posted a Perl poem on useperl [perl.org]. Someone didn't like it. :-)
                  • Man, that's funny.

                    It looks like you pissed off people that are usually pretty supportive of you around here.

                    I agree with the content of the poem (a different matter), AND as a perl poem, it is pretty inventive.

                    I see why you posted it even though you didn't agree with the content.

                    Good job... but way to stick you fist in the hornet's nest.

                    • by pudge ( 3605 ) *
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