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Journal: Slashdot and the Social Sciences 1

Journal by porcupine8

Argh. I know that if you are reading this, you are probably some kind of scientist or engineer, if not by trade then at least in mindset.

You are probably not a social scientist. I am. There are not many of us on Slashdot. So please, take a moment and let me explain a bit about our work to you:

It's true, correlation does not imply causation. However, not every SS study is a correlative study. There actually are ways to measure causation. Even ones that don't require a perfectly randomized full experiment, which is very hard to do when dealing with human subjects and nearly impossible to do if you're trying to find out how things work in the real world rather than how they work within a particular laboratory setup. There are many methodological and statistical techniques for piecing apart the likelihood of a correlation pointing to causation.

In addition to that, plenty of studies that do not measure causation don't claim to be. Now, the press release put out by their university might. The random blogger who posted about it might. But that doesn't mean that the authors actually claimed to find causation with methodologies that can only find correlation. Generally, that kind of thing gets mentioned in the peer review process.

So please, the next time you see a psychology/behavioral/education/other social science study on Slashdot, do not automatically cry "Correlation does not imply causation!!" without even reading the paper or understanding their methodologies or what they actually did or did not claim. And REALLY do not use this as your entire justification for declaring the study completely illegitimate. You just sound like a creationist who has wandered into a discussion of evolution and yelled "But what about entropy???"

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Journal: Hi, whoever you are. 2

Journal by porcupine8
Are you the person who just went through and modded five of my last eight comments as Troll? None of which were the least bit trollish, some of which had already been modded up a couple times?

I'm not too worried about my karma, as it's high enough that -5 won't hurt it much. And likely if these get metamodded you won't get mod points too often in the future, so you won't be able to do this again hopefully. But I'm curious as to why the hell you did it. So if you could leave a comment here and let me know why you randomly decided to be an asshole, or why you hate me, or whatever your motivation was, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks so much! :^D

"Be *excellent* to each other." -- Bill, or Ted, in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure