It's surprising how much you know about other peoples' religion. You know so much that you can actually prescribe what they believe. Clearly it's all-or-nothing and there's no allegory at all in the Old Testament. And that's how EVERY theologian interprets it. Thank you for your input, dude.
I don't claim to know what he does or doesn't believe.
He said this:
In the Old Testament, the Jewish people, while wandering in the desert, after seeing the parting of the Red Sea and all the miracles Moses brought down on Egypt, continue to fall away from God. He even had an actual presence in their Temple, and would show up as a flaming column from time to time. Nonetheless, they would turn to idols and he'd have to "smite" them from time to time.
So, yes, even though literally in the presence of God, some people don't believe. Odd, that.
I should probably have been more precise. To say that "literally in the presence of God, some people don't believe." requires a belief that the sections at least referring to God's active presence in the temple are literally true, if not the Old Testament in its entirety. Without that, his last statement doesn't make sense. If you don't accept that particular part literally, then it's merely speculation as to how people would respond.