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It is their fault as to they were unable to have an integrated character whether it is derived from their disease or not doesn't matter, it does matter for them who showed this inconsistency in their character but it has nothing to do with the rest of us. For us it only concerns what they did -if they did harm us that's what matters us, whether they were out of their mind is their matter, not our matter.

Therefore they all who committed crimes are responsible for what they did regardless of their state of mind.

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  • The crime of Murder, for example, is seen as being considerably worse than that of Manslaughter, and it is premeditation and intent that make the difference.

    Personally, I would consider it extremely unjust were I to be charged with murder had I intended no such thing, so to me the state of the mind of the perpetrator is extremely important.

    Plus: if punishment is meant to deter and rehabilitate, how can it do any such thing when there was no intent to commit a crime? How can you act in advance to avoid

    • Welcome back from the retreat.

      Intent - only does have meaning in offender's side, so even if offenders do have intent to do harm others, they would insist that they would not have intent to do harm others, if their insistence were admitted -remembrer 'give him the benefit of the doubt', are they likely to be free of charge?

      Remember 'intent' has something to do with subjective truth, but unfortunately 'intent' has nothing to with objective truth -truth that he violated the criminal code.

      • You can't understand till your in a position like that .
        There is a good reason for culpable homicide and second degree murder laws ,These crimes are not always committed by harden criminals , people with mental problems or fanatics.
        Sometimes there is a thin line between self defence and second degree murder.
        Especially if the act is in defence of someone else.

        The mind is a many complex thing , a simple whack on the top of your head could irrevocably change your personality or it could alter it temporarily.
        Im
        • Here in Japan too, many cases of murders have been reported, not all but sometimes murderers are found and caught in custody. It is not strange almost all murderers 'caught' show strange similarity - almost all are phychopath. Some are suffered from multiple-character disorder and others are diagnosed irregular cranial persons, none of them are regarded as 'just normal' as the rest of us. So in many cases they are going to phychopathological medical check and many are going to hospital but never be the crim
          • Someone who is psychopathic has no defence in their condition .. well should have no defence with their condition.
            A psychopath has control over their actions and will understand the difference between lawful and unlawful ..perhaps just wont care. They still have the mental capacity to know about it though
            People who try to fake a condition in order to get a reduced sentence should have a few extra years added .
            It is important we show compassion for those who are genuinely ill , lest we become as bad as those
            • Generally speaking I am agreed on your entire point, but there are some cases that are thought to be controversial, for example, -there are many criminals in which some are genuinely ill and should be treated more leniently than the cases committed by normal criminals.

              This statement contradicts itself. Normal criminals commit relatively less severe crimes as opposed to psychopathetic criminals who are inclined to commit less lenient crimes repeatedly. Considering the fact that the normal criminals should b

              • Hitler is believed to not have had any mental problems that would constitute a mental illness , which is really very strange to think that a normal person could sanction acts like that..
                I am not a supporter of the prison system or capital punishment.. baring my exception that i believe capital punishment should be given as a choice to the convict(which stems from my very strong sense of freedom , I would rather die than be incarcerated ).

                • Hitler is believed to not have had any mental problems that would constitute a mental illness , which is really very strange to think that a normal person could sanction acts like that..

                  That's right, if we ever read his biography, we would notice he is not insane.

                  War crimes ought to be dealt with other than ordinary criminal cases that's why all they were judged under court martial, anyway this is another story.

      • Welcome back from the retreat.

        Thank-you. As you can tell, I'm here a lot less now. But I'm still here!

        I need to get on with aspects of my life other than Slashdot, including a book that I want to get on with writing...

        Intent - only does have meaning in offender's side, so even if offenders do have intent to do harm others, they would insist that they would not have intent to do harm others, if their insistence were admitted -remembrer 'give him the benefit of the doubt', are they likely to be fre

        • Remember 'intent' has something to do with subjective truth, but unfortunately 'intent' has nothing to with objective truth -truth that he violated the criminal code.

          I think my statement shows lack of logic, the latter half should be changed to ..objective truth that he did some misconduct.

          Within two or three years a book made of paper would disappear. In stead many people carry e-book, there they can download writtings of a book with some charge. We don't have to buy as many books as we want to read, jus

          • Within two or three years a book made of paper would disappear. In stead many people carry e-book, there they can download writtings of a book with some charge. We don't have to buy as many books as we want to read, just one e-book is fine.

            At the moment, the book is in pen and ink. It's not even reached the computer, and won't for a long time yet. I need the calm of careful inking to give the book the care and attention that it needs. Given its nature, I expect that it will be more valuable on paper

  • I read an account of a ~50-60 year-old doctor whose entire personality changed out of the blue one year. He started littering his speech with profanities, and he actually attempted to sexually assault a woman who worked for him.

    It turned out that he had a brain tumor. When it was removed, his personality went back to normal.

    But it usually isn't like this with mental problems. Most of the time, they are hard to diagnose and impossible to cure. So I think, that unless there is an obvious and workable
    • I think you are right. Men are responsible for what they did whatever wherever whenever.
      • If you're going to be strictly logical about it, yes people are responsible [the cause] of what they do.

        But punishment? How do you justify that? Punishment occurs after a crime, so it's to late to prevent it. Unless you invoke intent, so that punishment can reform or deter, punishment is pointless, and indeed meningless.

        • The real aim of punishment lies in its prevention of crimes, so no physical or mental punishment could cure the criminals. All punishment suffers crimals, because of fear that might being suffered from it, normal people stayed before committing the crimes, and those who committed the crime intend to run away from responsibility they ought to take -I mean it's punishment.

          Punishment ought to work as such.

          • The real aim of punishment lies in its prevention of crimes...

            Punishment ought to work as such.

            So how can it prevent a crime that was never intended?

            A crime without intent cannot be prevented by fear of punishment, as the fear can only work by preventing criminally intended action, so your own argument (that punishment deters) makes it void for crimes without intent.

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