mercedo's Journal: Flashback XXIII

#Tragedy of War

I am just trying to save the greatest number of people possible, and I am perfectly willing to accept whatever consequences come with that. - pudge

This is a real story. -It was 18 years ago still I was a college student that I traveled to Hiroshima where the atomic bomb was dropped at the end of WWII.

I came across a prostitute who was then begging me a stay for one night. It was a very cold night in February. She was middle-aged and dragging one leg, after sometime of hesitation, I decided to let her stay in my hotel one night without having her serve me, I was supposed to because of a humanitarian viewpoint. I asked her in my room, 'Why you are dragging one leg?' She replied, 'It was some 30 years ago when I was hit by an atomic bomb, that caused me amputated.'

The tragedy of war lasts just that long, given that the war is inevitable, we want to avoid the unnecessary war at any cost.

If you thought war was necessary to overturn the evil regime, I would have nothing left to say. It seems to me that the U.S. has been playing a role of ultimate being like God since it posseses the third fire- nuclear weapons. I just pray U.S. uses its superior power for the prevailing of good will anyway, anyone -including UN cannot stop U.S. use of force at any rate. I just pray.

We all cannot blame for his appeasement policy, since it made us realise the war was the last resort to prevent the further expansion of Nazis. Do you really think the situations right now they all are facing are comparable to those of the eve of the WWII? I don't believe you are not that silly. They all are at the mercy of U.S. decision. They are waiting to see what U.S. is going to say on the situations in the Middle East without making even a noise of breathing.

How about Iran and Syria? They are just waiting and see how the U.S. is going to act. I think Mr Squiggleslash, I and others who have conscience have been worrying about what U.S. government is trying to say to start another theatre probably eastward and perhaps westward?

We suspect that U.S.government is planning to enter into war with neighbouring countries, stating an excuse something like to prevent terrorist's entering Iraq, to ensure peace in the region, etc.

Do you justify the use of force for them? Sometime after, OK?

So people who disagree with you have no conscience? - pudge

I only used the word in my convenience, of course those who ponder all these current world affairs have conscience, too.

Sigh. You act like the US wanted war. That's silly. - pudge

There's someone who plays the devil's advocate, for my part, you are more hawkish than I and Mr Squiggleslash is more dove than I, so in order to understand deeper the situation well, I dared to play a fool to utter like the possible consequences would be as above I mentioned, of course I'm not that silly.

The situations with Iran and Syria are almost entirely different. -pudge

Agreed.

But since when has that not been the case? Show me a time in the last 30 years when we have not had tense relations with Iran that could easily, within days, result in the use of military action. - pudge

Don't you think this statement is a little bit cynical?In the era of Carter Administration, America faced one of the toughest situation- Embasy members hostagetaking. Carter didn't take a military action. Even after he solved the problem without force, he didn't resort to force in that country. The attitude toward that country depends on the policy of the administration then, generally Democrats like peaceful solution while the Republican is more hawkish.

Trying to say "hey, we invaded Iraq, so why not Iran or Syria or North Korea?" shows either you have an intensely oversimplified view of the situation over there, or you think I do. Either way, it's uninteresting. -pudge

Me either. Let's get down to business.

Hm

[pudge]

If you thought war was necessary to overturn the evil regime, I would have nothing left to say

Then I guess you have nothing left to say. :-)

I just pray U.S. uses its superior power for the prevailing of good will anyway, anyone -including UN cannot stop U.S. use of force at any rate.

First: good, you should pray for our world leaders. They need it.

Second: yes, no government SHOULD be able to stop the U.S. That's the idea, that we can do what is in our own best interests. That's the point. When we

Re:Hm

[mercedo]

Welcome to my article -Flashback...

Let me back by far more... back in 589 B.C., Nebuchadnezzar II, King of Babylonia, sieged Jerusalem, conquered Jewish people, captured King of Judah, Zedekiah, following Jewish people's Babylonian Captivity, one of the severest plight in their history.

Why this happened? - At that time, Jewish state was a tributary of Babylonia, and King Zedekiah was appointted by Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylonia, he was a figurehead, and expected to act as Nebuchadnezzar want, howev

Heh

[Stargoat]

Don't you think this statement is a little bit cynical?In the era of Carter Administration, America faced one of the toughest situation- Embasy members hostagetaking. Carter didn't take a military action. Even after he solved the problem without force, he didn't resort to force in that country. The attitude toward that country depends on the policy of the administration then, generally Democrats like peaceful solution while the Republican is more hawkish.

Carter invaded Iran with a small group of special f [wikipedia.org]

Re:Heh

[mercedo]

I didn't know that. This is unbelievable. I understand there were many covert operations taken place at that time, only after many years have passed those events come to light. Interesting.