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  • How did she expect they would give her that much change? In quarters?

    It's one thing to aim high, it's another to be a little more realistic about it. Maybe - just maybe - she might have been able to get away with $1,000s, but $50s and $100s are probably more easily passed off. People would tend to be suspicious of a $1000 note, even though they were in printed up until about 1969 or so.
    • Actually, twenties would probably be the easiest to pass, just because they don't check them. When I spend a fifty, they almost always check it with one of those pens, but never twenties. Of course, she would have needed a fairly thick wad for $1600-odd worth of merchandise. On the other hand, you could probably print decent ones with an ink-jet printer (given the right paper), or really good ones witha color laser printer. With a dye-sub printer, you could probably do a creditable job even on the new t
      • $10s and $20s are easiest to pass because they are the most commonly used denominations. Picking the right place to pass these notes off is a crucial part of the scam too - busy, crowded, dark nightclubs are popular places to pass of counterfeit notes. If the bar staff are busy enough, they will not check smaller notes very carefully. So long as it looks right and feels right, you are likely to get away with it. Buy a drink, hand over a fake note, ditch the drink and pocket the change. You wouldn't want to

      • Actually, twenties would probably be the easiest to pass, just because they don't check them. When I spend a fifty, they almost always check it with one of those pens, but never twenties.

        I almost never carry anything larger than a twenty, and I've had plenty of those checked. Even the new "Technicolor" $20s are checked with the pen...never mind the well-publicized methods for checking them (the color-shifting ink, the watermark, the thread with "USA TWENTY" on it, and more that I can't recall).

  • Hmm. She does not sound sane to me.
    • Yes, I think that you're right on that. Particularly given that she then tried to pay for $1600+ worth of stuff with about $2 on a gift card. Well, either that or she was really, really desperate, and figured that it couldn't hurt.
  • People have no sense of humour. The government is acting in bad faith. A $1,000,000 note is so ridiculous that it has to be a fake. Would you arrest someone for trying to use monopoly money?
    • my question is the charge - Forgery.

      That would imply to me (IANAL) that:
      1. she had created the document (she didn't, it was given to her by her husband and is probably a commercial gag gift item from Spencer Gifts, etc.), and
      2. that the document being passed was an illicit copy of an actual existing document.
      I thought they had a specific law for passing counterfeit bills?

      • Actually, I'm not sure that counterfeiting would really apply in this case. I remember a story a little while back about someone who had passed a $200 bill (for non-Americans, this denomination does not exist in real US money) with a picture of George W. Bush on it. They said that counterfeiting would not apply, because they did not consider it a serious attempt to imitate actual currency. I think that they were going to try for a charge of obtaining goods and services by fraud, but I don't remember seei
      • I agree this is strange, but isn't it also worrying that "lack of respect for authority" is in effect being persecuted? Technical questions, whilst important to a defense lawyer, are of minor importance compared to the straightforward one of bad faith!

        I thought they had a specific law for passing counterfeit bills?
        This is probably a simple case of bad reporting.
  • Pike then tried to use two gift cards worth only $2.32 to buy the merchandise.

    Well, duh. She should have made a $2.32 dollar bill.

    Shows what Georgians know, I tell y'all.

    Cheers,

    Ethelred

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