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Comment: Re:Careful what you wish for.... (Score 1) 265

by jmd (#47329991) Attached to: Tech Workforce Diversity At Facebook Similar To Google And Yahoo

I would agree that today affirmative action is a bust. However, in the early part of its implimentaion, one could quantify benefits to poor people in general. when looking back at "The Great Society" with an honest eye one will find there were lots of people (across all spectrums) rising out of poverty. As with most well intended programs they disolve into generic programs that become quite ineffective.

"One of Johnson's aides, Joseph A. Califano, Jr., has countered that "from 1963 when Lyndon Johnson took office until 1970 as the impact of his Great Society programs were felt, the portion of Americans living below the poverty line dropped from 22.2 percent to 12.6 percent, the most dramatic decline over such a brief period in this century."[26] The percentage of African Americans below the poverty line dropped from 55 percent in 1960 to 27 percent in 1968."

The above is from wikipedia:

In my mind the reason we cannot acheive these goals is simply that there is a powerful contigency in the US who feels strongly that government has no role in these matters. I suggest if there is no role for the government, who then will insure this remains a civilized society. And not a dog eat dog world?

Comment: Re:Careful what you wish for.... (Score 2) 265

by jmd (#47325791) Attached to: Tech Workforce Diversity At Facebook Similar To Google And Yahoo

>> Is it possible that, in general, black and latino kids just don't put as high a value on a college education as white kids do? And, therefore, just don't work as hard to get the good grades necessary to get into a good college? What part does having children out of wedlock play in this? Black and latino women have a much higher instance of this than either white or Asian women.

My father was a professor of education and his main focus was in the public education system. K-12 and beyond. In his writings it is clear he believed that a committment to education gave the best result. In both education for enlightenment or for job prospects. He would also speak of disadvantaged people (not only race and gender etc but developmentally disabled or physically handicapped etc as well) not having a strong committment to the educational process. And he attributed most of this to each person's life experiences. Hence, if you grow up without some sort of affirmation that an education will be beneficial you will not committ to the educational process. i.e If I grow up in a poor violent neighborhood do you think I will commit to a higher education? That person's world view is: As far as I can see McDonalds is the only place hiring in my neighborhood.

This in a nutshell is what the affirmative action ideas was to address. Until a given group of people begin to believe that change is possible and that they would benefit from the change, that group will not risk time and energy let alone financial resources to make the changes.

I agree with this poster. This kind of article only scratches the surface. There are no easy answers.

Comment: Money Matters (Score 1) 325

by jmd (#47182631) Attached to: Fixing the Humanities Ph.D.

Human rights don't.

And by the way... next time you hear someone compare today with the 60s tell them it just ain't true! The 60s was about human rights and humanities were an integral part of everyone's life. Now with disappearing humanities in universities..... comes the curtailing of human rights.

Because we know less and less what it means to be human.

Comment: The root cause (Score 1) 269

by jmd (#47168707) Attached to: EFF Tells Court That the NSA Knowingly and Illegally Destroyed Evidence

If you want to understand how our country came to this, it is quite well summed up in 260 or so pages in a book called "The Authoritarians" by Bob Altemeyer.

Download the book here:

This is written from extensive research into right wing authoritarian personality (right wing is not a political aspect here). If you want to know why the entire globe seems to be following this destructive (destructive from a majority point of view) read this. It becomes easy to see why politicians can kill their own citizens. How can someone let Wall St bankers off the hook yet throw someone in jail for possessing one joint and throw away the key. is very enlightening. And FREE!

Comment: The Future (Score 2) 269

by jmd (#47168575) Attached to: EFF Tells Court That the NSA Knowingly and Illegally Destroyed Evidence

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul - Leonard Cohen "The Future"

These are not isolated events anymore. Everything is being turned upside down.

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