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Comment Re:Glueing things together is how I teach OO desig (Score 2) 237

I remember having a TA once challenge me - I had written an algorithm to operate iteratively, rather than recursively, because I had noticed the program would run out of memory if I did it the other way when fed large data sets - because to him, recursion was theoretically perfect and not using it was a personal affront. The fact that my code worked and his crashed after 4-5 minutes didn't matter.

Tail recursion optimization usually takes care of problems like that, assuming the problem was running out of stack.

Comment A poor workman... (Score 5, Insightful) 281

... blames his tools. Crap code an be written in any language. Good code can be written in PHP. While not my first choice of languages, I have found myself on PHP projects and been fairly comfortable using it although during moments of frustration put in comments such as "These following 10 lines could be written in the following one line of Perl...".

Comment Re:Yes & the sheer amount of existing code/fra (Score 1) 414

I strongly agree with the parent. My favorite language implements this in a similar way to the parent's favorite:

my @items = (1, 15, 27, 3, 54);
my @result = grep { $_ > 10 } @items;

I appreciate coding in a language that allows me to quickly and understandably (yes, Perl can be understandable... or not :-) get my thoughts into code. I used to enjoy coding in Lisp for the same reason (still would, if I could use Lisp at work these days). I enjoy coding in Java also, but the difference is noticeable.

Submission + - Make the case for Perl Deprecation (

helixcode123 writes: I (and likely many other Slashdot Perl coders) have been happily using to make our lives, or at least the part of our lives that spend writing server-side web apps, simple and trouble free. Easy to programmatically generate HTML, web forms, and so on. So I happened to be coding remotely today, and bring up the CPAN page only to find that it is now being deprecated in favor of other packages, mainly templating systems and frameworks.

Now, obviously templating systems and frameworks have their place, but I've always enjoyed the flexibility provided by the API. I'll often set HTML element classes according to data values, and likewise set content-releated elements according to the nature of the data. The trouble with templates is... they are templates. If content is highly conditional on the data, then I'm not sure how a template system would be better suited than the API provided by

So can any of my fellow Perl programmers give some advice to those of us that see no deficiencies in Are we just being old fogies unwilling to embrace the new and better, or are we wisely wary of the "it's better because it's new" bandwagon?

Comment Re:How to totally screw up my ability to code: (Score 1) 181

Musician and programmer here (see shameless plug below). I completely agree. One of my colleagues always has music playing in one of our coding labs. It's nice music, often Mozart, but it just yanks my concentration. When I code I like to be able to immerse myself in it. Music keeps me buoyed up at the surface.

Comment Re:If it's cloud based like Office 365 (Score 1) 191

Yes. My kids do all of their school writing assignments on Google Drive (Docs); my daughter, now in college, did all of her work on the Google cloud during High School, and the kids love the real time collaboration features. My youngest, in 4th grade, uses a "private" Google service that their school set up. My point here is that I'm sure many people are using these Google services and Microsoft saw the writing on the wall. That is likely what helped the App group divorce themselves from the OS group in this matter.

Note that the separation is not that strong. For example, I wanted to import a spreadsheet as a table into a Sharepoint wiki page (cloud based), and it required ActiveX. However, both Firefox and Chrome seem to be smart enough that if you do a CTRL-C from Libreoffice on the cells you want to import as a table, and then do a CTRL-V on the wiki page, it does the table conversion. That was a very pleasant surpise.

Comment If it's cloud based like Office 365 (Score 1) 191

it could be a decent service for folks on Linux. My company has gone with Office 365, and while the actual Office apps are currently a bit weak, Outlook works pretty well. Since I prefer Linux, and run it on my development machine, I have to boot up my VPN to do Windows based tasks. Running their apps on the browser would be more convenient for me.

However, my current take is that their cloud application suite (Word, PPT, Sharepoint) isn't nearly as functional as the Google Drive analogs.

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