I've found such people exist primarily in the imaginations of the people who complain about them.
Not so. While I'm a nuclear power proponent, I have nothing against wind and solar power. I even like them in concept. However, I've never seen a single reference to a study of the effects of windmills on regional wind patterns, massive areas of solar panels on regional temperature/wind/etc., let alone manufacturing of these things. Are they issues? Perhaps not. Maybe even "probably not". But the "green" community doesn't even entertain the possibility that they could be problems. It's just as bad as the hard-headed idiots that don't see issues with continuing heavy fossil-fuel use.
yes, [the Prius] is greener than your pickup
Nice try there. I actually use two-wheel transportation (motorized and otherwise).
I'm not saying the Prius is necessarily bad. But as we seem to be heading inexorably in the direction of battery/electric transportation, is that really the best option? Alternatives such as Hydrogen (Toyota seems to be making progress there) have their trade-offs as well, but perhaps it is better in the long run to stay technology-neutral as this technology takes root rather than building a huge infrastructure for battery/electric cars? Again, I don't know the answer, but I don't think the vast majority of people even consider the question. That's the problem.
Incidentally, the articles you linked to didn't have references to much supporting independent research. The KPBS article linked to research conducted by the "Low Carbon Vehicle Partnership", and the Car Connection article compares a Prius to a HUMMER-- How would you even think that is relevant to my point? Thank god it's more green than a hummer! I never would have imagined that!
The HowStuffWorks article is based on a single, albeit reputable, paper, and points to another paper from the same laboratory which concluded that plug-in hybrids could emit 10% more greenhouse gases than some conventional vehicles (according to the HowStuffWorks summary).
So as much as you obviously buy into this stuff pretty easily, I would caution you and others to use a more critical eye before just assuming you know the answer. Is the Prius better than every conventional vehicle on the road? Perhaps. But your understanding of the answer is based entirely on a single paper that has been hyped up by a single website. (I won't consider the KPBS and Car Connection articles to be part of your argument, because they are non-sequiturs.)
when my two years with AT&T was up I got a new contract that gave me a break for using my old phone
Indeed (though was that because you were no longer making subsidy payments or because AT&T loves the environment?).
It's not the carriers that need to make the change though. People need to make better use of what they have rather than buying the fancy new gadget because it is cooler than theirs. You and I have overcome that. Most people haven't.
In this case I'm pretty sure you've done a good job of following your sig to great detail, seeing as how you haven't provided much useful data.