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Comment Misdirection (Score 1) 262

The Post/Guardian articles didn't claim that PRISM was being used officially to spy on Americans. They pointed out that its stated purpose was to spy on people thought to be foreign (probability of 0.51 or greater that the target is not a US citizen), and mentioned that some American citizens get spied upon "incidentally" and that this data is supposed to be removed - but also that it's not considered a big deal if American citizens are spied upon.

Additionally some of the communications of foreign targets can involve a US citizen, even if they're not the target of the spying.

Remember also that the intelligence community uses its own private definitions which make it easier to misdirect the public.

Comment Hitler analogy (Score 1) 198

"I would counter by noting that any argument that uses a Hitler analogy is self-refuting."

This is stated as though it is a truism when it is not, his argument at this point can be summed up as "once we ignore some of the best reasons to be in favor of privacy, there's no real reason to want privacy".

The basic premise of his post is "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" - a pretty weak argument.


Submission + - Irish Mobile Phone Providers Prosecuted Over Customer Data Loss (

enabran writes: Two mobile phone networks in Ireland have been ordered to pay €15,000 each to charities after unencrypted laptops were stolen which contained personal data of over 10,000 customers, in some cases including copies of passports and bank account details. Judge John O'Neill noted that the Irish Data Protection Commissioner's 'code of practice regarding such breaches had been ignored by the companies.' Under forthcoming EU law the maximum fine will be increased to €1 million in future cases.

Comment That's bad enough... (Score 1) 734

Keeping the personal information of those who choose to come to the US is bad enough, I'm pissed off that my country's government has agreed to a deal which means "exchanging data, including DNA and fingerprint records, and in some cases details of individuals' political and religious beliefs and sexual orientation - even on people not planning to travel to the US".

It seems that other countries have agreed to it too.

I realise their justification is primarily to facilitate business travellers but I wish they would just show some courage and for once say no to the US government's demands, they have no right to this data.

In Nature there are neither rewards nor punishments, there are consequences. -- R.G. Ingersoll