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Comment Re:That's absolutely not true (Score 1) 71

You need to read about how much harm is caused by conversion therapy, and try again on that statement.

Given that they try, I stand by my statement. You still have yet to confront what I said about my past. You have yet to counter what I've said about people in tribes in Africa "in the wild" understand that the behavior is absolutely bizarre. People have had a problem with people mutilating their bodies and trans way long before 2016. One example off the top of my head is the song Funky Cold Medina by Tone- Loc. Can you imagine how devastating I'd feel today if I'd had an irreversible surgery after outgrowing this? As for sports, women do get hurt. A few years ago a woman was permanently harmed by a trans while playing competitive volley ball at the college level. Trans males don't play in men's sports because they know they can be physically harmed. Also, a man is invading a woman's private space and this would and should be considered sexual assault. This isn't a niche issue. This is something that effects every high school girl in the locker room with a teenage boy. 6 years of Jr high and high school gym class puts that teenage boy in front of around 30 girls each year. That's up to half the girls per high school who have to deal with this "niche" issue with that class size. Graduating classes average around 300 students, though urban high schools are typically higher and rural lower. This "niche" issue isn't niche. It again can effect the entire female population of the school. What keeps getting missed is it's up to a trans to work out their personal problems, not for them to insist that society adapt to their mental problems. This is what I did. These problems don't go away with surgery, and when the person figures out the psychological issues, the results can be absolutely devastating to them. Studies are actually showing there's no psychological improvement and there's no change in things like suicide rates.

As for the other issues, people should not be rewarded for breaking the law (illegal immigration). We have a legal process by which people can enter the US. We have the most open borders in the world for legal immigration, second only to New Zealand. New Zealand, of course, doesn't have land borders, so illegally immigrating there isn't easy and isn't a problem. It's also harder to immigrate to Australia and Canada than the US. Australia and Canada are tied at 3 because they more or less have the same immigration policies. What's interesting but not important to this discussion is that the most open countries are also former British colonies. Anyway, women should not kill their inconvenient babies when they can do what my 15-year old biological mother did with me: she gave me up for adoption. My biological mother has had nothing to do with me for 50 years. I was a minor speed bump in her life for the 4-5 months when she was actually aware that I was gestating. What's related to this is it's important to not forget that we're having problems in societies with population decline, and baby killings are definitely contributing to this.

Finally, take a step back. People have had issues with most of this kind of stuff dating back long before your nemesis was even born. It's not him, it's about cultural boundaries and people pushing too far against them. When people do, you can expect others to push back.

Comment Re:That's absolutely not true (Score 1) 71

It's a hot-button issue because there's a entire right-wing media ecosystem that keeps harping on it, while ignoring other issues.

I'm seeing articles about this in both right and left wing publications. It's a national discussion and it's rooted in the fact that parents don't want their daughters beaten up by men while they're playing sports. Their daughters don't want to play against them, either.

Trump 45 was a rapist - this was a known fact. Trump 45 deployed secret, masked police - this was a known fact. Trump 45 and Trump the candidate made his racism loud and obvious, but thanks to willful blindness and complicit media, people kept believing he didn't mean the things he was actually saying.

From here on out, feel safe in knowing that if a part of your comment mentions Trump, "racist/bigot/etc." that part will be completely ignored, as will this one. Keep your TDS out of this and so we can focusing on having an on-topic conversation.

The solution seems obvious: simply use the same testosterone thresholds that are applied to intersex people in women's sports, and move on. But you can't rile people up with an enemy to hate, and right now that's trans people.

That's not a solution. Therapy, covering what I mentioned above, is the solution. Stop their families from hating on boys or girls so growing up as them is a rewarding experience. For those who are adults, teach them to set boundaries with their families and teach them about gender and gender roles. Think about this. There was a movie made called, "What is a Woman" that did a few things. The most notable thing it did was it went to African and talked with a tribe about trans. These are humans in our most primitive existence. They'd never heard of such a thing existing. It doesn't occur in "the wild".

I'm sure you're concerned about the resurgence of conversion therapy

At least they're trying. They're not doing it right, but neither were phrenologists. What I mentioned earlier is the path that I took, and it worked for me. As I outgrew this, it became more and more rewarding to start expressing my manhood, my actual manhood without being attacked for it. This wasn't a one-day process, it was a growth process, but it's been completely worth it. Fun experiment for you: if you know somebody who is trans, ask them this question directly: "What is gender?" Make clear to them that you're looking for a direct, dictionary answer. "Gender is..." They'll stumble through it, at least at first. There is a chance that it might cause something to click within them.

Comment Re:That's absolutely not true (Score 1) 71

You seem to be missing this: we're not talking about Trump. We are talking about men playing in women's sports. These are not hypotheticals. Some of these things are known, via the news, to have happened. If you're concerned about people who votes for Trump because of the trans issue, you should really take a step back and look at why it is such an overpowering issue. You should also look at the fact that people were looking at 45, not what 47 is turning out to be. And finally, you go and try to play the "bigotry" card. The last time somebody tried to play the bigotry card, instead of playing the usual defensive maneuver, I took a different route: I told him that if he ever called me a racist again I was going to kick his ass. He's not done so since and, surprise, surprise, since then we've actually had really good, engaging, intelligent and insightful conversations. It turns out we actually agree on a lot of stuff.

Circling back to trans, I'm quite proud to have people go to therapy, not surgery. And still, you continue to dodge the question of why there aren't trans men playing in men's football, wrestling, basketball, etc.? Oh, and I dealt PERSONALLY with that trans shit. It is psychological and it's based on abuse by your family who hate on family members of your gender. Why would you want to be that gender if you're going to be treated like shit? What if you tried embracing being the other gender, even though you're not, as a way to possibly get treated like your sibling or opposite gender parent? There's also a little of that, "I'm not going to teach my children about gender and gender roles." Guess what? Your kids end up confused about gender and gender roles and they also come up with coping mechanisms to deal with the problems this creates.

So you want to know why people get so pissed about this and why it's such a hot button issue? People are doing catastrophic and irreversible things to their bodies. I fortunately found the right help that stopped me from going down that path. That help is hard to come by thanks to the "woke". And to shut down this card as well, people don't deserve respect, they earn it, and you don't earn it by cutting off your junk or removing your uterus.

Comment Re:That's absolutely not true (Score 1) 71

Do you think that abnormally large biological women don't exist?

I've seen videos, even contemporary ones, of incredibly strong women losing to average gym jocks. They exist, but they can't compete with men. Some do get jacked up on testosterone, but you're not really dealing with a typical case then, and even then they still tend to lose. In your case, a 97lb kid in 9th grader is about the same size as most other 9th graders, maybe a little smaller. Notably, weren't playing junior/senior football where you would have been crushed. Also, where are the trans males in male sports? I've never seen a trans male lineman in college football nor the NFL. People always seem to forget to ask that question when they're talking about male sports.

Who the fuck said it was black-and-white? It certainly wasn't my side. It's you assholes that are incapable of understanding nuance.

You're misunderstanding what I meant by "black and white". I'm agreeing with you that Wall Street is a huge part of our problem. I disagree with you on the trans issue and in fact the trans issue is an 80/20 issue. So what I mean by what I said was that disagreeing on trans doesn't also mean that I have to support what Wall Street is doing. It is in that respect that I am referring to black and while.

Comment Re:That's absolutely not true (Score 1) 71

You like to deflect things, don't you. We're not talking about Trump, we're talking about people's daughters. We're talking about parents who don't want their children injured by boys who are much stronger than them. That goes for their daughters as well. We're talking about daughters who want to play on an even playing field. We're talking about daughters who want a private space for themselves. We're talking about daughters who don't want to be subjected to the mental illnesses of a male. Finally, if you believe in this, why are their no trans males playing football? Wrestling? Basketball? You know the answer. I don't need to answer this for you.

Comment Re:Hmm (Score 0) 38

I"m not your research assistant. Go look yourself, but I will clue you in to the fact that the railway (image 8) shut down in 1987. What you do reference is a bunch of vegans unhappy about lobsters and crabs being boiled and who are desperate to find a way to get people to stop eating them. You may be among them. If you are, feel free to continue to wonder why nobody who isn't a vegetarian or vegan buys impossible burgers. The answer to that question is it was their (your?) problem that you had and that nobody else cared about. Do reference Simpsons S7E5 for the perspective most of us have.

Comment Re:Hmm (Score 0) 38

Crab People. On a more interesting note, the Christmas Island migration is also clear evidence that crustaceans don't feel pain. During that migration, the crabs cross a rail line that gets incredibly hot. Most crabs crawl over the rails with no problem, with just a brief interaction with the tips of their feet. However, some park themselves under the rails to rest. The rails, being incredibly hot, will cook the crabs alive if they stay put. If they felt pain, they would leave right away.

Comment Re:The biggest mistake (Score 3, Insightful) 87

No, actually Obama had a 60-vote Senate, so he didn't need Republican support at all. There was a universal healthcare option in the Obamacare bill via the "Public Option". The public option was removed at the behest of the insurance companies, not because of Republicans. After going through reconciliation, a bill need to pass the senate by 51 votes. According the the website whipcongress.com, they had them.

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