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The Lovelace Test Is Better Than the Turing Test At Detecting AI 285

Posted by samzenpus
from the why-did-you-program-me-to-feel-pain? dept.
meghan elizabeth writes If the Turing Test can be fooled by common trickery, it's time to consider we need a new standard. The Lovelace Test is designed to be more rigorous, testing for true machine cognition. An intelligent computer passes the Lovelace Test only if it originates a "program" that it was not engineered to produce. The new program—it could be an idea, a novel, a piece of music, anything—can't be a hardware fluke. The machine's designers must not be able to explain how their original code led to this new program. In short, to pass the Lovelace Test a computer has to create something original, all by itself.

Comment: Re:Big deal (Score 1) 448

After enough scams like this, "kickstarter" might become the punchline to a joke. Sort of like April fools, but good year round.

Dude1: Buy my foldable 400MPH 400 miles to the gallon car which folds up into a suitcase, only $1K.
Dude2: Wow, that sounds great. I could totally use that. Take my money!
Dude1: Kickstarter!
Dude2: You (**%$)hole.

Comment: XMEGA Xprotolab (Score 1) 172

by danceswithtrees (#47225263) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: PC-Based Oscilloscopes On a Microbudget?

Somewhat surprised no one has mentioned Xprotolab yet.

8 channel logic analyzer at 2MSPS (3.3V)
2 channel analog at 2MSPS, 200kHz analog bandwidth, -14 to +20V inputs
Small OLED display
1.6" x 1"
As an extra bonus prize, arbitrary waveform generator!!

Never tried one personally-- tempted but I think my Tek would get jealous.

Comment: Re:Getting extremely sick of this. (Score 4, Insightful) 174

by danceswithtrees (#47196463) Attached to: Greenland Is Getting Darker

It's as if the earth never has experienced higher temperatures before and survived.

I don't think any scientist, or thoughtful person for that matter, questions whether the Earth will survive. Of course it will. Their real question is whether the changes will cause a great die off in humans and animals. Some animals will undoubtedly thrive in the new environment but humans, probably not so much.

Comment: Market saturation (Score 5, Insightful) 333

by danceswithtrees (#46900931) Attached to: Figuring Out the iPad's Place

Perhaps sales are slowing down because of market saturation. The iPad was the first of its kind (that people actually bought, used, and liked). Almost everyone who wants one has probably bought one and the slowing rate reflects market saturation. A diminishing pool of new buyers and a steady pool of people replacing older models would help to explain the "dwindling" sales.

Comment: Re:Meanwhile, back in America (Score 1) 284

by danceswithtrees (#46077695) Attached to: Chinese Moon Rover Says an Early Goodnight

I remember watching a documentary about the rover years ago. The lead scientist, Squires (sp?), talked about how if the launch was successful, he would never see the rovers again. Bittersweet to think about sinking years of effort into designing and fabricating something and then hoping you would never get to touch or set eyes on it again.

Comment: Re:Cake (Score 1) 653

by danceswithtrees (#45753281) Attached to: Protesters Block Apple and Google Buses In California

I don't know if you intentionally missed the point of my post or reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Companies often offer "free" things as an incentive. "Free" heating and air conditioning so that workers are comfortable. "Free" food and beverages so that workers think they work in a great environment. "Free" shuttles so that people who don't have onsite parking don't complain as much or perhaps giving an option for people who don't want to drive. My point is not that they have "free" lunches and shuttles but rather the inequality gap that is fueling the anger and resentment of the people outside the bus toward the people inside.

Comment: Cake (Score 4, Insightful) 653

by danceswithtrees (#45753159) Attached to: Protesters Block Apple and Google Buses In California

There is an ever widen inequality gap in America. Gaps in wealth, income, education, access to healthcare, life expectancy, etc. Much attention has been paid to the life of the top 1% but not so much to the bottom 20%. Real incomes for them have stagnated or gone down over the last decade. The urine poor public education system gives little opportunity for upward mobility. Hunger, cold, and loss of housing are constant worries.

Meanwhile in congress, politicians want to cut social welfare programs, keep taxes on the wealthy at record low rates, give tax breaks for corporate jets, cut unemployment benefits, send the poor to fight stupid wars (how many of the Apple and Google employees have friends and family serving in the Middle East?). The list goes on and on. I am fighting the urge to blame this all on the Republicans because the Democrats don't really seem to want to fix the problem.

So the situation has devolved into this-- where the poor, disaffected, resentful masses with little hope of improving their lot see the gleaming buses give free rides to the Apple and Google employees with their free lunches. To be fair to the employees in the buses, they are probably not the really rich because they have onsite parking. First the spray cans. Next the torches, rocks and sickles. Meanwhile the politicians in Washington cry "Let them eat cake."

Comment: Re:Guys seriously please dont hate us! (Score 5, Interesting) 698

by danceswithtrees (#45713859) Attached to: NSA Says It Foiled Plot To Destroy US Economy Through Malware

Includes those that are set not to automatically upgrade BIOS, of course

Two words: BIOS backdoor!

More importantly, they need to show that the massive dragnet of surveillance of all Americans was essential to find out about this.

Another thing, ironic that the US worries about other people doing things that it has already done. For example, the US created Stuxnet and is worried someone else will follow our lead. The US dropped a nuclear bomb on civilians and we are worried someone else will follow our lead.

Comment: Re:Not just $10.5 billion.... (Score 2) 425

by danceswithtrees (#45649607) Attached to: US Treasury Completes Bailout of General Motors

Not only is the taxpayer out over $70 billion to bail out GM, but the original bond holders who were illegally robbed are still waiting for their money too.

If the government had not stepped in to save GM, how would the bond holders be doing now? I imagine that if GM were liquidated, they would have gotten a few cents on the dollar. So yes, the bond holders got a raw deal, but lots of people got a raw deal during the meltdown of 2008. As the summary points out, the bailout prevented the loss of ~1M jobs and 0.6M people losing their pensions. If the government had not stepped in, most of the rust belt would be in bankruptcy. So all in all, money well spent.

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