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Last November, Ted Kennedy made some racial slurs during the Justice for Judges filibuster that the Democrats forced on us. I called Mark Dayton's office and asked them to relay a message to Mark Dayton that as my Democratic representative in the Senate I would like him to lead in censuring Kennedy for his comments.

Imagine my surprise when I was told that it wouldn't be proper for a junior statesman like Dayton to lead in censuring a senior statesman like Kennedy. So, that was that. However, I noticed a lack of outcry from the Democrats when Lott was forced to step down. No concern about seniority there.

Just a few weeks ago I saw a email reply from Betty McCullom, a DFL US Representative from Minnesota. She said that she would like President Bush censured. I was shocked. Bush would be way above her seniority-wise, but yet she is still willing to censure him.

Today I found out that moveon.org is running ads to censure Bush. To me this is hypocracy. I could have assumed it before, but now I've got to believe that Dayton inability to act wasn't related to seniority. It was simply that Democrats don't have to honor to stand up when it is someone in their own party that gets out of line. They use censure as a partisan tool to destroy their political opponents, rather then a method to reprimand members who are out of line.

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  • Rule one of Senate club. You don't talk about senateclub.
    Rule two of Senate club. Don't mess with the Kennedy's.
  • Politicians using censure for political reasons?! Shocking! Just shocking, I say!

    I think it's cute how you seem to think it's just a lefty thing, though.

    • Re:OMIGOD!! (Score:2, Troll)

      by bmetzler ( 12546 ) *
      I think it's cute how you seem to think it's just a lefty thing, though.

      Show me an example of the Republicans using censure or anything else for partisan purposes. I haven't seen any. All I see from Republicans is an intense amount of integrity.

      I used to support Democrats. But that didn't last when I really took the time to take off the rose-colored glasses and see how Democrats really act.

      I hear a lot of claims on the laft that Republicans are partisan. But no one is able to show an example. How

      • Re:OMIGOD!! (Score:3, Informative)

        by DaytonCIM ( 100144 ) *
        All I see from Republicans is an intense amount of integrity.

        What color is the sky in your world?

        Old and new, the Republican Perp Walk of Fame:
        1. Rep. Bill Janklow (R - SD) convicted of second-degree manslaughter, reckless driving, running a stop sign and speeding.

        2. Sen. David F. Durenberger (R - MN) officially denounced by the Senate in 1990 for unethical conduct (Unethical conduct in dealings with Piranha Press and other charges)

        3. Congressman Henry Hyde (R - IL) US Federal bank regulators sued Hyde
        • Oh, it goes back much further than that.

          The republicans referred to FDR as "That man!"

          The democrats tried to walk out of the Union because a republican won the presidency.

          Heck, the very origins of the republican party are the root problem here - the republican party sprang into existance specifically to oppose the democratic party's attempt to spread slavery to new states. The two parties first contest was not political, but para-military: "Bleeding Kansas". It's been all downhill from there.

          The only
        • Given the time and resources anyone can find good and bad Republicans and good and bad Democrats. To say that one party has more integrity than another only further displays your ignorance of US politics.

          Silly chickenhawk, I was talking about integrity in office. Certainly people's lives aren't perfect. But notice the list you posted. Janklow - Convicted, resigned from office. Durenberger - denounced in Senate. Symington - Convected, removed from office. That leaves Hyde, and I don't know his case.

          • Press rights to photograph the ranks of boxes of incoming dead servicement. That's a politically self-serving order. The president is using his power to stifle dissent.

            • It's Brent, don't bother.

              One of the things I like and hate about him is he's like a freakin' pitbull. He won't back down unless you could literally beat whatever and all examples that help his statement into the ground with counter-examples, and even that isn't a guarantee he would concede the point.
            • Interesting tidbit on that topic... I have a friend in the Navy. I was talking to him about the Dover pictures, and the executive order that called for a moratorium on welcoming ceremonies. He actually found it quite offensive that the remains of military people are now being unloaded in the dead of night by people in BDUs and baseball caps, as though it were shameful. His position is that it's an issue of respect. The idea that photographing flag-draped caskets is insensitive to the families is bullshi

              • Perhaps they should just be honest and dig mass graves in Iraq and dump them all in there. It's a good approximation of how much the current administration actually care about the people who are killed over there.

          • Saying they didn't matter, that it wasn't important, that they were just "personal."

            You mean like Hyde's "youthful indiscretions" and how they really didn't compare to a blowjob in the oval office?

          • I was talking about integrity in office

            All of the Republicans I listed were IN OFFICE when they were convicted or abused their power for personal gain, etc...

            My point is (was) that Republicans as a whole are no more, no less noble a party (to the man or woman) than the Democratic party.

            Pretty simple.

            Both parties have their good and bad, educated and well-spoken, and their fall down drunkards.

            You continue to assert (now and in the past) that Conservatives, Christians, Republicans, and Heterosexuals ar
            • All of the Republicans I listed were IN OFFICE when they were convicted or abused their power for personal gain, etc...

              My point was that they are no longer in office. Being in office didn't mean that their offenses were covered up or swept under the rug. That's what integrity is all about.

              My premise is that Democrats don't have that integrity. They would rather cover up wrong doings of party members then deal with them. Go ahead, prove me wrong.

              -Brent
              • Go ahead, prove me wrong.

                OK.

                1. Senator Alan Cranston (D-CA) censured for reprehensible conduct. Not removed from office.

                3. Rep. James A. Traficant Jr. (D-OH) convicted of accepting bribes and sentenced to 8 years in prison. Removed from office.

                4. Rep. Charles Diggs Jr., (D-MI) was convicted in 1978 of operating a payroll kickback scheme in his congressional office. He served seven months of a three-year prison term. Removed from office.

                5. Rep. Michael Myers, (D-PA) convicted in 1980 of accepting bribe
      • Never make a generalization like that. There are scum of all sorts for both parties. For the record, I happen to be a pretty strong social conservative with libertarian economic influence. You will find some very principled tree-hungger-commies and some very unprincipled preachers. IT goes both ways

        jason

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