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Comment: Re:Typical muslims (Score 1) 389

that we've been interfering and killing their families since their grandparents were in diapers.

In recent history the west has done some immoral, illegal things in the middle east, true. However for how long do you think that islam has done worse in those geographical errors. 1893 & in 1915 an estimated 2.5 million Armenians were killed by the Ottomans , Dhimitude was only stopped under prodding by the west in 1853 in the Ottoman empire, not nice, not moral. Islam has estimated to have killed or caused the death of some 270 million

Comment: Re:Typical muslims (Score 3, Interesting) 389

You mean Taqiyya, which is why unfortunately I feel very slow to trust Muslims & I sincerely wish that was not so:

“Taqiyya” is the religiously-sanctioned doctrine, with its origins in Shi’a Islam but now practiced by non-Shi’a as well, of deliberate dissimulation about religious matters that may be undertaken to protect Islam, and the Believers. A related term, of broader application, is “kitman,” which is defined as “mental reservation.” An example of “Taqiyya” would be the insistence of a Muslim apologist that “of course” there is freedom of conscience in Islam, and then quoting that Qur’anic verse — “There shall be no compulsion in religion.” {2:256} But the impression given will be false, for there has been no mention of the Muslim doctrine of abrogation, or naskh, whereby such an early verse as that about “no compulsion in religion” has been cancelled out by later, far more intolerant and malevolent verses. In any case, history shows that within Islam there is, and always has been, “compulsion in religion” for Muslims, and for non-Muslims.”Kitman” is close to “taqiyya,” but rather than outright dissimulation, it consists in telling only a part of the truth, with “mental reservation” justifying the omission of the rest. One example may suffice. When a Muslim maintains that “jihad” really means “a spiritual struggle,” and fails to add that this definition is a recent one in Islam (little more than a century old), he misleads by holding back, and is practicing “kitman.” When he adduces, in support of this doubtful proposition, the hadith in which Muhammad, returning home from one of his many battles, is reported to have said (as known from a chain of transmitters, or isnad), that he had returned from “the Lesser Jihad to the Greater Jihad” and does not add what he also knows to be true, that this is a “weak” hadith, regarded by the most-respected muhaddithin as of doubtful authenticity, he is further practicing “kitman.

Comment: Re:Typical muslims (Score 1) 389

Policy Exchange: One third of British Muslims believe anyone who leaves Islam should be killed
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/...

Which is why at the very least I want sharia proscribed in my country and at the very most the same done for islam, because there is no truth or value to it. If I were religious I'd say it's demonic.

Comment: Re:Typical muslims (Score 1) 389

You do realize that there is 1.6 billion of people that are muslims in the world

Actually it's closer to 1.7, so what? So you are saying because 1.7 billion follow a quite frankly immoral behaviour it makes it ok? All you can say about Christians is that they thump bibles, oppose gays and abortions!

Well at least we don't hang gays or have doctrines that justify murder, rape, deception, servitude all on a massive scale. I suggest you go and educate yourself.

http://www.alarabiya.net/artic... http://www.raymondibrahim.com/... http://www.raymondibrahim.com/...

Comment: Re: Typical muslims (Score 4, Insightful) 389

need I go on?

Yes please do, because if you want a numbers game I think you know that by far Islam is massively guilty here, So I'll be waiting.

The crusades were a reaction to the atrocities that Islam was engaged with CENTURIES, not decades but centuries in the Mediterranean & middle east, just like we are seeing now with ISIS. You know murder, torture, slaving all the sorts of things that are considered in-human. Come on the battle of Tours was in 732 [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B... ]. We were trying to wipe them out and for good reason.

The problem is that the issue IS with Islam, it is the problem, because you see Mohamed is meant to be the perfect man?! Really? How can a rapist, murdering, pedophile possibly be perfect? All muslims are taught to be like him. For example some of the great examples muslims follow Mohamed forces a 17 yr old Jewish girl called Safiyyah to marry him and rapes her on the same day her husband and family are killed in the battle of Khaibar (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

You know everything that is being done by these muslim terrorist (Al-nasura, ISIS, Boko haram, etc.....) All of it comes from the Quran, every bit of it. Try and do that with the new testament.

Political? Islam is a political system you fool!

So the issue fundamentally IS ISLAM, is Mohamed, his teachings and more importantly his behaviour. OK here's a snip for you to think about:

http://www.raymondibrahim.com/...

A Muslim state must [first] attack a Christian state—sorry, I mean any non-Muslim state—and they [the women, the future sex-slaves] must be captives of the raid. Is this forbidden? Not at all; according to Islam, sex slaves are not at all forbidden. Quite the contrary, the rules regulating sex-slaves differ from those for free women [i.e., Muslim women]: the latter’s body must be covered entirely, except for her face and hands, whereas the sex-slave is kept naked from the bellybutton on up—she is different from the free woman; the free woman has to be married properly to her husband, but the sex-slave—he just buys her and that’s that.

Oh did you notice the freudian slip she made as well?

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