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Journal Some Woman's Journal: My weekend reeks of awesomeness. And yours? 33

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N: We're not geeks or anything.
J: Yeah. Playing Gamecube on a Saturday night.
Me: Hey, Triangle's[1] probably playing D&D.
N: Dude, you can't play D&D with 3 people.
Me: Four would be okay.
J: Well, I've done it wi-Nothing. I've done nothing.

[1] Engineering Fraternity whose U of MN chapter has atrophied so much that they only have 3 people. How they managed that, I know not.

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  • FYI ... I'm a Triangle from Penn State chapter. Though we're widely shunned by most of the other chapters (Mich State, UConn, and Col State are noted exceptions) cause they think we drink WAAAAAY too much.

    -Ab

    • Apparently our chapter is shunned for different reasons. They're a couple of dorks who can't seem to organize a recruitment program. (How freaking hard is it to get men in science/engineering?!) They're moderately scary. On the plus side, they own one house per member.

      It's kind of funny that my sorority may outlive them, given our roots as an offshoot of the MN chapter of Triangle.
      • yeah, I've only ever met 1 brother from the Minnesota chapter when he came to visit. He left and that week contacted our national and tried to have us shut down for excessive drinking. He came on a home football game in the years Lavar Arrington was on the team and we were actually good. There was a massive party (~500 people) and lots of people passing out and stuff. He didn't seem impressed.

        Our chapter definitely epitomizes the "Work hard during the week so you can party harder on the weekends."

        -Ab
    • And I'm a University of Cincinnati Triangle. It was just an ordinary frat and got respect of all the sororities ;-)
      • I knew I liked you for some reason ;)

        I've only ever met one Cincy brother, and that was at National Convention in Orlando a few years ago. Our pledges bolted to the Cincy chapter last fall. They said they had a blast.

        in F, S, & C

        -Ab
        • I knew I liked you for some reason ;)

          That's funny, because I was just thinking that you two don't seem like creepy people who walk around in Spiderman suits. But I guess I was wrong. :^)
          • Actually, you don't know how hard it is to get over that stigma of "oh, you're the engineering fraternity. You must be geeks." Even though of Penn State's engineering programs are in the top 10 rankings (Nuc E, Industrial E, Architectural E, and Mechanical E, with Nuc and Arch being #1 ranked). We're also not exclusively engineering. We're Engineers, Architects, and Scientists (though, here atleast, we're nearly 90% engineering).

            My favorite questions I get are:
            1. If you're greek, then why don't you
            • If you want difficult, try having to deal with the stereotypes of "sorority girl/slut/whatever" and "ugly/dorky engineering female" at the same time. You'd think they would cancel out, but they appear to compound each other. (For whatever reason, the "frat boy" image doesn't seem to be as negative.)

              I'm pretty much only asked one thing: "So, do you guys have, like, pillow fights 'n' stuff?" Grr.
              • Speaking as a proud (alumni) brother of Penn State's chapter of Phi Mu Alpha, which is a MUSIC fraternity, I think I may have it equally bad as you. I've got all the greek stereotypes AND all the gay music major stereotypes.

                OTOH, our acapella group is pretty schweet.
              • (For whatever reason, the "frat boy" image doesn't seem to be as negative.)

                Except by the guys that didn't make it. I remember hearing the fraternities referred to as "rent-a-friend" by some of the guys that didn't get in.

                So, are you going to tell us about these pillow fights? :-)

                • some of us never tried to get into a frat by choice. but then, there weren't any frats where i went to college because there were only about 550 students.

                  i've got some buddies and we all drink bleach. you know we practice what we preach. we're not a drunken bunch of frat boys trashed on beers or a stoned bunch of hippies with no careers.
                • Just out of curiosity, how do you decide who gets to be in? Mine isn't an exclusive club- if you want to join, you're in. We still vote on initiating the people, but it's just a formality.
                  • I can't tell you all the details, but I can tell you it involved a live goat, an inflatable sheep, several belts and an electric cattle prod. No, wait... that is initiation. j/k :-)

                    It really wasn't that hard to get in, but you had to be invited. If someone talked to a SigEp about joining, or we approached them, we did a check to see what their GPA was. We looked at organizations they were involved with. We did something outside of school to get to know them. I was approached and invited to play a rou

              • Hey, you can't fool me! I've seen enough bad '80s movies to know that the "ugly" smart girl is really a babe behind that pulled back hair, frumpy clothes, and glasses. ;)

                It's definitely gotta be the glasses, though. If putting on a pair of glasses can keep people from knowing that Clark Kent is really Superman, then it can most certainly make Brooke Burke look like Janeane Garofalo. 0:)

                -Ab
          • Honestly, most chicks saw us as good looking guys (no real 'geeky looking types') that were going to have killer jobs (read: salaries) and stuff like that. We had women over all the time! No, not ugly ones... in fact the sorority with the best looking women always chose us over other frats (though half the guys didn't like any of them, cause most of them were dumb as bricks).

            And before you ask, no, I already met my wife before I pledged, and met her in band, not the frat.
  • I've played D&D with 3 people, which while it's possible, definitely leaves something to be desired. Optimum party size seems to be around 5, and our current party of 7 or 8 (it varies) is definitely a bit on the large size...
    • I've also always played in smaller groups, usually two plus DM -- in fact, the largest group I've ever played D&D with was all of three (plus the DM), and it was great in that size.

      Indeed, being that I'm not much for groups anyway, I'd say three was about the optimal size -- more than that, and people would start getting in each other's way IMO.

      Though, sadly, I haven't played "real" D&D (that is, with dice and paper and stuff -- i.e. not on a computer and with other human beings) for years and y

  • I just spend most of the weekend underwater :) Did an u/w photography course & thus spent most of my dives looking for creative ways of lying on the bottom of the ocean without being a) stung or b) attacked - I did have an (apparently very funny) encounter with an octopus that decided I was a good thing to chase & hold on to. Managed to make it down to 28.2m for about 40 mins - my air consumption is still high but it seems to be getting better.
  • There's something about "Engineering" and "Fraternity" (in the college sense of the word) that just don't seem to go together. I mean, yeah, it makes a great teenage monkey-spank movie [imdb.com], but in real life, geeks really are pretty much loners. And when they do get together, it's not normally for raucus stuff like keg parties & the like.

    Of course, I can think of some team efforts they'd be good at (building Master Destructor Robots for fun & profit!), but first they have to learn to work together.

    An
    • Engineering boys are most definitely not loners. I feel pretty justified in making this statement given that I'm in an engineering field. I can't even think of a single ChemE boy who is socially awkward. MEs and EEs? Sure...they're geeks, but also appreciate social interaction. Even my lab partner/friend who is an Everquest addict appreciates social interaction.

      As for "learning to work together." That was a bit harsh coming from somebody who I can only assume hasn't taken an upper division engineering
      • Computer Science is a bit higher, but that's not engineering.

        Is too! Sorta....

        I'm gonna go cry now. :-P

      • Re:Oxymoron (Score:2, Troll)

        by bethanie ( 675210 ) *
        all engineers are socially inept except for the ones that you know.

        Yeah. Yeah, that's right! Wow, you really *are* smart, aren't you?

        :-D

        ....Bethanie....
        • People actually moderate journal comments? WTF?!
          • Dude. And they don't even do it right -- the 1st comment was the troll, my 2nd comment was just the acknowledgement of such.

            I don't care -- they can modbomb me all day long; I've got karma to burn.

            ....Bethanie....
            • I just find it amusing that people actually burn mod points that way...
              • Oh, but didn't you know? That's why they're all clamoring for more -- gives them a sense of power, see? Makes them the Score Gods in the Karma Game. And when they don't get them, they piss and moan about the mod system... It's all so silly.

                ....Bethanie....
      • The university I attended (Macquarie University in Sydney) didn't have an engineering department - arts, languages, philosophy, chemistry, physics, electronics, computing, but no engineering. However, we hung out with a lot of people from two of the other big universities in the same city which did have rather large engineering departments. I can honestly say that the engineering students from those two universities were some of the most socially active people I have ever met - with one caveat: they mostly
  • I play D&D regularly with a group of 7 people and one DM. I just leveled up to 3rd level, so its a fairly new campaign.

    However, another group that I am an occasional guest in plays reguluarly/weekly with 2 people and one DM. I make the 3rd person whenever I decide to come. Of course, each of them plays 3 characters (only one of each player's characters are really "power" characters, the others are just there, really.) and its a serious power campaign (going on years now). Hell, my 16th level blight
  • Usually happens when they get a couple classes that are so geeky, no one on campus wants anything more to do with them. Happened to Sigma Phi Delta where I went to school; I was supposed to be part of a recolonization attempt that foundered on the rocks of more geek personality problems (a couple really childish people who didn't show their true stripes until they were well and truly ensconced, and a couple of us--guilty as charged--in the recolonization class who were there as much for cheap rent in the f

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