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Sun Microsystems To Cut 3,000 Jobs As Oracle Deal Drags On 251

Posted by Soulskill
from the don't-let-the-sun-go-down-on-me dept.
afgun writes with news that Sun will be shedding 3,000 jobs, roughly 10% of their workforce, as they continue to lose money while waiting for EC regulators to approve their acquisition by Oracle. "Oracle Chief Executive Officer Larry Ellison said Sept. 22 that Sun is losing about $100 million a month as the transaction is delayed by the EU probe." James Staten, an analyst with Forrester, said, "The longer a cloud of uncertainty hangs over Sun, that drives customers into delays of purchases or into the hands of competitors. This is a very trying time for Sun and Oracle as they wait for an answer." A spokesman for EU Competition Comissioner Neelie Kroes said today that she "expressed her disappointment that Oracle failed to produce, despite repeated requests, either hard evidence that there were no competition problems or a proposal for a remedy to the competition concerns identified by the commission," and that "a rapid solution lies in Oracle's hands."

Comment: Re:Sun's Niagara line is better for databases... (Score 3, Interesting) 146

by Markus_UW (#29389455) Attached to: Oracle To Increase Investment In SPARC and Solaris
Plus, by making the Oracle licensing scheme slightly more favourable towards sparc than power or intel, they can mess with IBM/other competitors pretty well. Before anyone complains about the immorality of such moves, I would like to point out that this is Oracle we're talking about, and they already do this when they're mad at Sun/HP/IBM...

Comment: Re:"More" means nothing.. what are the product pla (Score 4, Informative) 146

by inKubus (#29389225) Attached to: Oracle To Increase Investment In SPARC and Solaris

Yeah, but you gotta understand. Without Sun there's just IBM. There's no other vendor in the mainframe business, which is still big business. You don't think the IRS has time or money to manage the size of cluster they would need to operate effectively? So they rely on big iron, which is reliable and redundant and engineered to be that way over 40-50 years of experience. Clusters are garbage compared to a real mainframe. Sure, you have distributed filesystems now, and you can sort of split CPU around, there's management systems, etc, but all of this are ideas that come straight from the mainframe os which does all this "by itself". Google managed to make a pretty cool mainframe from commodity hardware but whatever.

Now, if you're not going to go with IBM for your database, you're probably going to go Oracle. But if you need big iron to run this huge database, you're going to have to go with IBM with z/OS and linux virtual machines or something. Oracle now has viable, proven mainframe line and all they have to do is throw money at it. They'll just move to selling complete packages instead of just DB at the mainframe level. With all this "cloud" bullshit (eg "Mainframe on the internet"), big businesses are interested in managed services and Mainframes have always been vendor managed.

Even IBM minis like AS/400 boxes come with full support from IBM. They monitor the box 24/7. I used to operate them long ago, and I remember that a disk went bad in one of our storage boxes (they had these giant enclosures with over 100 disks in them). Literally the message flashed on my console "SYS01281: DISK ERROR" blah blah blah and I turned around to get the binder to figure out what I had to do. By the time I turned back to my desk my phone was ringing and it was IBM support letting me know a tech would be there within 4 hours to replace the drive. Awesome.

So like, Sun/Oracle can do the same thing, and they can compete if they play their cards right. Oracle has poached a lot of high-end people from IBM in the past so this was only a matter of time.

Regarding MySql: MySql is a toy. Go to where the money is and you will find mainframes still. No one in their right mind would put anything important on MySql. Yeah yeah, facebook pft. If Facebook was making more than a few mil they would switch. Internet hits != money. (I'm talking Fortune 25 money, government money, world organization money, casino money, bank money). So I, for one, welcome Oracle and Sun back to this venue.

Comment: Re:Isn't it strange (Score 1) 871

by Markus_UW (#27702055) Attached to: Ubuntu 9.04 Is As Slick As Win7, Mac OS X
i did the same with compiz on my ~3Ghz P4 toshiba laptop with 512 megs of ram and it runs fine... though i hardly use that machine anymore since i bought a new macbook :) Depending on ram and video chipset, you could probably have a compiz on too is all i'm saying (especially in a more moderate form), it's not that much of a performance hog.

Comment: Re:IT is a customer service group (Score 2, Interesting) 576

by Markus_UW (#27602157) Attached to: Why IT Won't Power Down PCs
That's a pretty common government thing to do... When I used to work for Environment Canada, we used to spend like insanity when it came up to budget time, just so we wouldn't lose that budget room should we need it in a future year. It (and a few other things that I won't discuss now) actually sickened me to the point where I had to leave government employment and join the corporate world oncemore, which while not perfect is a little bit more sane, where success and competence are somewhat more linked.

Comment: Re:SparcStations (Score 1) 699

by Markus_UW (#27444489) Attached to: IBM About To Buy Sun For $7 Billion
Myself I just have my linux (slackware) vm for my *nix tinkery stuff.. it takes up 10 gigs on my hard disk, and it lets my do my *nix tinkering in an environment where I can be reasonably sure not to pwn everything in my OSX, which contains all my school assignmnents, etc... It's the same reason I have an XP vm (under XP) on my windoze box. It's nice to have an isolated environment sometimes.

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