InvaderSkooge's Journal: I perfer the term CONSPIRACY HYPOTHESIST

I don't like the term Conspiracy Theorist, I perfer Conspiracy Hypothesist, makes me seem like I have less claim to evidence.

The interesting thing is, I suggested a cover-up in jest, and it took the response of Iraq-hawks and Israel deifiers to really draw it out. It just cracks me up. Well, mostly in jest. Seriously, NO Israel is just a little screwed up, what the hell did they do to get that special privledge? They're protecting the privacy of Israelis better than me, how fucked up is that?

What I find great was the vehmence which I got attacked with, it was even suggested that I beleived that "getting rid of the Jews would bring world peace", which is absolutely wrong. I don't even hate Israel all that much, they aren't that much worse than Saddam (j/k).

Remember this, kiddies: A rabid Israel supporter can be a fun thing, if they lack just enough common sense. I bet a rabid Palestinian terrorist supporter would be fun too, but you don't see much of the people who argue that the Al'Aqsa Matyr's Brigade is doing good. Wonder why.

Methinks the invader doth protest too much...

[neocon]

I'd certainly invite readers of this journal to read the thread [slashdot.org] and judge his posts for themselves. The ones where he explains his theory that we should change our foreign policy not in order to do what is right, but in order to appease any who threaten us are particularly amusing. :-)

Judge what?

[InvaderSkooge]

Of course they should see it for themselves, I would not want it any other way. But it seems you miss the purpose of my post. My point in the post, which is no way a defense of my posistion in the thread, is above the thread, looking at the way the thread progressed. I find it very very funny that I start out by SAYING I was putting forth a paranoid posistion, and then end up being accused of being a paranoid consparicy theorist, as if it were an insult. People saw "Israel" and "Iraq" and their brains shut down, and the Zionist Hawk cock-waver took over.

Keep in mind, judging what you think of my argument in the thread/judging what you think of me, is different from judging my comment.

Re:Judge what?

[neocon]

As I said, people should read the thread and judge your position for themselves.

From the amount of time you spend justifying yourself, though, it doesn't look like you're too sure of that position, though. :-P

Exactly how is Israel a threat to peace?

[CommieLib]

I'm presumably the so-called accuser mentioned in the entry. I reached the "all we have to do to have world peace is sell out the Jews" conclusion because of your assertion that Israel is a great threat to peace. Exactly how are they a threat to peace? Certainly they are not conducting terrorist operations against their neighbors, or slaughtering their political opposition.

I can only conclude that you believe that they are a threat to peace by merit of their existence, which leads me to the conclusion above. It appears to me that you're playing that most cowardly of games, that of making an assertion and then retreating into claims of satire when it doesn't stand up to reason.

This entire debate is as if a woman was raped and someone runs up to her still bleeding in the street and scolds her for wearing a short skirt.

Re:Exactly how is Israel a threat to peace?

[InvaderSkooge]

IIRC (and I do), the Israel is a threat to peace stuff came out in response. I make no attempt to say that my discourse in the thread fits with the American mainstream support of neo-Zionism, or that I personally support it. However, given that I called my original post a consparicy theory (it was, btw), and that didn't call Israel a threat to peace, just an embarrasment, the original post does not deserve the response it provoked, from me or from people like you. I found your response funny, so i posted how i found it funny, is that so wrong?

BTW:
Certainly they [Israel] are not conducting terrorist operations against their neighbors, or slaughtering their political opposition.

Comedy Genius. Simply brilliant. I must bow to your sarcastic wit there. That was sarcasm, right?

Re:Exactly how is Israel a threat to peace?

[CommieLib]

What exactly are the terrorist operations and slaughter of their political opposition? Can you provide examples, or are you drawing moral equivalence between Israeli anti-terrorist operations that deliberately casualties (Israel has an air force, after all) and blowing up children on a bus on the way to school?

I am a Zionist in the sense that I support Israel's right to exist. The Jews deserve a homeland. So do the Palestinians, and it's called Jordan. If I had to reduce you to a stereotype, and I'm honestly trying not to do so because I hate it when people do it to me, I would say that you're the type of person that always roots for the underdog, right or wrong. I've followed the Israeli-Arab conflict for a long time, and I've concluded that anyone who sides against with the Palestinians is either not following it closely enough or has a horse in the race.

I will consider the possibility that I suffered from an insufficient supply of humor in reading your post, as well. It certainly wouldn't be the first time I was accused as such.