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Comment: Re:Forked the Debian? or the Debian? (Score 2) 183

by Eunuchswear (#48659969) Attached to: Devuan Progress Report Published

At least at the time, Debian's GNOME package had a hardcoded dependency on the systemd package, not a feature/virtual package which provides the services. And GNOME DDs were refusing to change that, because they didn't like the systemd-shim.

Whether that was the case then it isn't now.

gdm3 depends on libpam-systemd.

libpam-systemd depends on systemd-sysv | systemd-shim.

There is exactly one package in current Jessie or Sid that depends on systemd -- gummiboot.

Comment: Re:Forked the Debian? or the Debian? (Score 1) 183

by Eunuchswear (#48659673) Attached to: Devuan Progress Report Published

The proposition to have multiple init system in Debian was promptly rejected

No it wasn't.

What was rejected was the proposition that packages that didn't support all init systems should be removed from Debian, violating the Debian constitution:

2.1.1 Nothing in this constitution imposes an obligation on anyone to do work for the Project. A person who does not want to do a task which has been delegated or assigned to them does not need to do it. However, they must not actively work against these rules and decisions properly made under them.

Deboian does have multiple init systems, and if people want it to continue to have multiple init systems then it is up to those people to do the work, not to try to force other developpers to do the work for them.

Comment: Re:Am I missing something? (Score 5, Interesting) 225

by Eunuchswear (#48652527) Attached to: GCHQ Warns It Is Losing Track of Serious Criminals

You must be thinking of the USA where the following offences merit mandatory jail time:

(1) driving while Black.
(2) walking while White.
(3) possession of a Penis.

You forgot that
(1) walking while black and
(2) selling loose cigarettes while black and, my favourite,
(3) carrying a toy gun in a toyshop while black
are punished by on-the-spot execution.

The hilarious part of (3) is that he was shot for carrying a toy rifle in an open carry state.

Torque is cheap.