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Comment I don't think it's enough, but I have doubts too. (Score 1) 331

Please bear with me, I'm speaking from a US point of view.

I don't want to completely condemn anyone to not being able to get a job because of a felony over being "a really stupid kid". Everyone has stupid moments, but most people can learn from them.

I also don't want people who are un-rehabilitable released back into the general population.

The number of times this kid swatted other people leads me to believe that he falls into the latter of the two groups.

I do think that there are other side conversations about the militarization of SWAT teams that can be had as well, but that's not the focus of this story.

TL:DR: There's a boatload of moving parts to this, but the punishment doesn't (in my mind) match the crime.

Comment Re:Not that ambitious (Score 1) 298

I agree, by 2100, the world will have stopped using fossil fuels without this statement. If they had any courage, or ambition, they would have said 2050. Even that wouldn't take too massive of a push. If you wanted to go on an JFK'esque level, you would shoot for 2030. That would be revolutionary.

Pray tell, what does that massive push look like, and be sure to list all the caveats that go with it.

Comment Re:Social mobility was killed, but not this way (Score 1) 1032

then we should limit major choices, not bury young people in debt, unable to contribute to the economy (buy a house, car, etc.: manufacturing, construction, etc.) and instead it all goes into some bank ceo's pocket. how does that help anyone, besides ones plutocrat class sucking up so much and more and more each day. that doesn't trickle down morons, it just stays in a bank, while a middle class flush with cash spends most of it, actually generating jobs and a healthy economy

i don't really understand people who view life choices as a one sided thing. the range of choices available to you also reflect your society's values

some of you idiots will say if a guy only had a choice between walking off a cliff and walking into a furnace he should be blamed for wrongly choosing to commit suicide, poor characters, etc. what choices a person has before them is a reflection of the values of a society. and obviously, our society sucks, and is getting worse. cue the morons who bark "american exceptionalism" without fucking noticing that on all of the measures of what they consider american excpetional about, the usa is actually falling behind and slipping further

for example, you have greater social mobility as a poor immigrant in a nordic countries, than you do in the usa. you know, those countries with evil socialist universal healthcare and free/ low cost higher education

Because those Bently, Caddies, Bimmers, Mercs, Cessnas, GulfStreams, and the like are all simply conjured from thin air and given to those people who reach the 1% club as tokens of of their success. Yeeeep. No trickling there. None at all.

Comment Re:Social mobility was killed, but not this way (Score 1) 1032

Nobody owes you a career... Absolutely 100% agreed. But I have an ethical objection to considering universities as jobs factories. They are not. They never have been. If you want job training, you can go to a VoTech and learn a marketable skill and that will give you a much better ROI, if that is all you are concerned with. I don't buy it that we can't afford to educate our young people. It is absolutely an attainable goal. You handwave it away by saying the world isn't fair. I agree. But that does not mean we should lie down and accept things that are possible to change. University of California used to be free. Think about that. And the same generation that benefited from free or near free college is remarkably callous towards students that suddenly need to pay $100k for a four year degree in-state. It doesn't have to be this way.

And why isn't it free anymore?

Comment Re:Social mobility was killed, but not this way (Score 1) 1032

Whose income would you count? The parents or the student? What if the parents could afford tuition, but refuse to? Should the child be further punished for having parents that don't care about him/her?

So.... "the parents are now responsible for their ADULT children's bad decision making."? That doesn't sound like a bad precedent at all...

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