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Comment Re:Score one for the other team (Score 1) 173

Whether such phenomena are "truly random" or not (a bit of a paradox for a supposedly generally-deterministic physics), or, say, a perfect back-door to controlling all of physical reality that an insightful engineer might put in, or, say a God, is a metaphysical question. But that it can happen is clear, as a matter of science.

One of these, vaccum fluctuations, has the ability to predict something and is theoretically testable thus science, the other is god. The problem with your myth of choice is that it is a myth of the gaps. It can only exist where we don't yet know the answer. When we find the answer it will retreat further. There isn't any sort of rational experiment we can preform to prove it's existance, and it has absolutely no predictive power whatsoever. It is faith in that it is a useless expendeture of intelectual power to try and defend.

All that being said, if it makes you a better person, or makes you feel good, or whatever, by all means god it up. Please, however don't insist that other's pretend it is valid or rational.

Comment Re:Oh good (Score 1) 907

Kill?

The alternative MIGHT be to not lend money to people with bad credit scores. Would THAT be better?

In many cases, yes.

Having wages more inline with productivity would be much better. The types of loans being discussed here, came into being after we decoupled minimum wage from worker productivity per hour, and started the long decline of real median incomes relative to productivity per capita, but fixing demand side issue like that is so out of vogue.

Comment Re:Substitution effect (Score 1) 907

The airline industry is very big on pushing Brand Loyalty via points, rewards and membership programs. Though not well versed on that specific market, brand loyalty could significantly influence many riders that would have to choose occasionally between Spirit and their airline of choice.

Comment Re:Competition (Score 1) 907

Now imagine your credit score is 480 and you have $17 down. Sort of limits your options a bit doesn't it. That removes a large number of the entrants from the market very quickly (and rightfully, so). Pricing to these customers are based on their ability to pay back, not on normal market forces. Operating in this sector, without the intent to reposess is not profit maximizing.

Comment Re:Competition (Score 1) 907

You fail to account for the non-overlapping nature of many of the markets, many of these types of "loans" are generated by the local buy-here-pay-here. The local office may often set their own rates, hold their own paper, ect. They are limited by what they charge based on regulatory limits and the customer's ability to pay. It's key to the bussiness model that they exceed the customer's ability to pay, because that maximizes their profits through repossession and resale.They aren't free markets's because geographically there may be 1 or 2 companies inside the range of any individual sub-prime-doesn't-have-a-car-becuause-the-last-one-got-reposesed-buyer. The first place that offers a vehicle will win the business of these customers. They aren't competing with eachother generally. This kinda throws a hitch into you clear assertion that any change in their cost translates to lower prices, due to other preasures on the price outside of what one would see in markets that are closer to Free in the traditional definition. While I agree that "In the old days, a jobless single mother wouldn't be able to get a car loan at any intrest rate." I have to point out that the Buy-Here-Pay-Here was crated in response to a ballooning cost of vehicles relative to income in the 70's. Before that time it wasn't needed. Also, in the modern setting, many situations a jobless single mother still has a stream of income, that many banks will lend against not just the type of predatory lenders that generally service Buy-Here-Pay-Here type of debt.

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