I bring this up any time someone is leaving, and even when I have left places. You should review all access, change all passwords he may have had, revoke all access that he had.....and you do this....as much for his benefit as for yours.

He is leaving, he is naturally the person who is going to be blamed, either directly (he did it) or indirectly (Oh he used to do that, and hes gone now....). Thats normal, and some amount of it is fine. However, you owe it to yourself AND to him to be sure there is no question that, if there is an incident, there is no reason to suspect him.

Nobody wants to be in the situation where there was a compromise after an employee left, and now there are questions. If there is an incident there will be questions either way, but the only person who benefits from his still having access is the attacker whose actions are the problem.

I felt better knowing my access has been fully revoked and there was little chance of there being questions later.

> ... if it's on the company computer, it's on the company's time

So when I fired up my work laptop at 11 pm to watch a movie on amazon prime while I played videos on my desktop, you are saying that is company time which I should be compensated for? Pretty sure the company would tend to disagree on that, maybe I should ask if they want me to add those hours to my timesheet?

Doesn't sound as automatic as it could be, frankly, at this point the system has been so abused and overused it needs some serious brakes put on. We should make appeals mandatory, in fact, we should eliminate the plea entirely....no right to waive a jury trial, no right to plead guilty. You are charged, you MUST defend yourself, and if convicted, you get an appeal which can't be tried in the same district.

and if you are not convicted, the prosecutor is.

But how do we know, without in depth review, whether or not evidence they used had been illegally obtained by this pair in the course of their extracurricular activities? Seems to me this casts doubt on the entire bushel of apples.

I honestly tend to think its the result of unprecedented safety. We are hard wired to be on the look out for danger, when there is no danger and we will find it if we look for it. As you make real danger more and more rare, sensitivity goes up.

People being murdered every day can be a fact of life, people murdered every few days is a tragic situation, a person murdered every decade is a major news event.

Also we have an issue of expanding scope. Lets take car accidents, mundane ones are local stories, odd ones are regional, and that strange few times a year spectaculars are national.

If you decrease the numbers, all that changes is scope, you still get as many stories, they just come from wider areas.....so the input never really changes even if the output does.

These airplane incidents are international news and run for days and weeks as such.... which makes them seem a lot more common than they really are because they take up such a disproportionate amount of the news when they do....because news isn't meant to be boring and mundane, it is, by definition, the unusual and the rare.

This. I simultaneously have no problem saying he was right to break the law, in fact, did the right thing overall (some of it questionable but, extreme circumstances seem mitigating enough to me) and saying the law these cops broke was a just law, and a law which they deserve punishment, far worst than anything he did.

They broke the publics trust, he undermined bad law. He assisted the public in moving forward and avoiding violent criminal gangs who they might otherwise need to be in direct contact with to get drugs. They extorted him.

Let me put it this way, I would call the punishments proportional if they were imprisoned until they die of natural causes then proportionally....he should get a medal of honor. That would be about right.

No what I was saying is the "terrorists we are used to" are generally fools the FBI setup to make headlines to justify their overhyped jobs. My particular favorite is the dude they approached asking if he could get a shoulder fired missile.

Over the months they watched him, he stalled and bumbled and utterly failed to do anything of note, except be told by contacts he had from previous legal buisiness that he couldn't get one. The entire time the only thing he did on his own was download a sales brochure off the internet to show them. Seriously....

they handed him contacts, they handed him fake papers, they handed him the missile itself..

What are they protecting us from exactly when they have to create the terrorists before they can find them? Its a bullshit jobs program from the TSA to the FBI.

But wouldn't such a determination be based on the specific facts and timelines, which, the court should be quite capable of determining without the help of advantageous timing by prosecutors to avoid their pervue....I mean I would think....or do you think the courts incompetent to make such a determination, hence we need this sort of secrecy?

I always see that, sometimes even on systems I co-administer and its like....really? YOu don't even change the fucking alias so someone can't just go "gee I wonder if phpmyadmin is installed?" and go to the fucking default URL.

I know its convinent as fuck but this is bad practice in production even if you are not running a multimillion dollar black market operation. If you are dumb enough to expose that to the internet, at least expose it with a URL you chose ffs.

This is why there should be no deadline and no last appeal. There should always be room for new evidence, especially evidence of official misconduct.

Because they hadn't been grooming the suspects and didn't help them obtain driver's licenses; which means these people were at least competent enough to acquire a car and fuel on their own.... so its unlikely to be terrorism in the sense we have become accustomed to in the past decade or so.

No its pretty easy, they were in disguise trying to pass a bad guys checkpoint....

Exactly, we don't want to be associated with torture, that stuff has to be kept quiet. It is no longer socially acceptable to openly torture.

Then they should be issued to the public who can't seem to stop shitting themselves every time there is an incident. Frankly I think planes are victims of their own success, so safe that crashes are too unusual and people can't handle it makes them freak out more.

Fact is when this happens it is major international news. That right there tells you something. This is not even worth the time we have spent talking about it, never mind wasting time playing musical chairs every time someone has to take a piss.

The thing is, this really is a freak occurance. So many flights, every single day, over every single city. People need to piss and shit, its simple biology. Every time someone goes for a piss break, someone else needs to be called in? That is just silly and insulting to the people involved.

In the grand scheme of things to worry about, this isn't really one of them. Its ridiculous to feel we need new regulations every time something happens...the next tragedy will always happen. It is inevitable.