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Comment Re:And what good would it do? (Score 1) 447

I'm afraid you don't have any audio recording. It hasn't been released. There is a supposed transcript leaked to German media, but it is pure hearsay nor is it anything like official. It wasn't produced in a press conference with any kind of normal explanation or Q and A. Additionally, pilot and cockpit's associations do not agree with how this has been done at all:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...

The German Airline Pilots Association pointed out that the flight data recorder was still missing and that the reasons that led to the crash could only be determined once all data had been examined.

The European Cockpit Association said the release of voice recorder data was a "serious breach" of globally accepted rules. It said many questions remained unanswered.

Comment Re:And what good would it do? (Score 1) 447

Recordings give you an indication that something strange might be going on, but from there you have to find other evidence from the data recorder or even a reconstruction of the plane itself to find out was actually going on and match it up.

People are extrapolating an awful lot from a bunch of sounds.

Comment Re:And what good would it do? (Score 1) 447

No, he's the only one talking to the press about what the conclusions are. Which is pretty typical.

It's not typical. You'd get an air accident investigation team talking about it.

......and those conclusions are being made before any full investigation has been made or a report has been produced or before anyone has understood what happened to the plane as a result.

Do you see the massive hole you've dug for yourself here?

Comment Re:And what good would it do? (Score 1) 447

Normally you wouldn't get anything official either, in the days after the crash.

You'd certainly get a press conference detailing what is going to be done, asking for calm and the time to let the investigators do their work without any ridiculous speculation.

These investigations usually takes weeks-months, sometimes even years before the official report comes out.

Yer, I think you need to re-read back what you've written there, comprehend what it means and then have a look at the conclusions the prosecutor has come to before such an investigation has been completed.

Of course, if they had kept quiet for months, and then came out with the voice recorder tapes, people like you would have cried conspiracy because it took so long.

No. I don't know where you get that idea nor why you're winding yourself up in the word 'conspiracy'. Certainly, in the absence of some or all of the data it is essential the plane is reconstructed as much as possible, and given the state of it and the wide area of wreckage that will take some considerable time - as it always does. Without matching up the state of the aircraft, what has happened to it and retrieving any data possible any voice data useless.

It's always amusing to me that anyone who questions anything is somehow a 'conspiracy theorist', and then anti-conspiracy theorists then ironically become the biggest conspiracy nuts of all. They start throwing stories about aliens and other stuff into the mix to try and make it seem all so unbelievable.

Comment Re:And what good would it do? (Score 0) 447

If the voice recorder clearly tells you that the pilot was locked out of the cockpit

A voice recorder most certainly does not tell you that at all, and it certainly does not tell you how or why. After that, whatever you extrapolate is null and void.

and at the same time the plane enters a steep but controlled descent, that is not "ridiculous speculation". At best, there's a small chance of an alternative explanation, but it's certainly not ridiculous to start with the most logical one.

Again, you're leading yourself into ridiculous explanations. There can be a plane electrical failure, cockpit fire, release of noxious fumes.......anything is possible before you start sending the heavies around to a pilot's house to dig about in his personal belongings from which you can extrapolate *anything*. Point is, in an air CRASH investigation you eliminate those things first.

You're just continually shooting around in the dark with nothing to say.

Comment Re:And what good would it do? (Score 1) 447

You mean that the pilot rendered the co-pilot unconscious, re-set the height on the autopilot, then theatrically knocked on the door to make it sound like he was locked out?

Oh right.

And somehow flipped the door control to the override lock mode, which has to happen from inside the cockpit during the 30 second buzzer period after the door code has been entered from the outside? Oh right.

I'm afraid all that serves to highlight how speculating from a bunch of audio noises before you've corroborated it with other data and evidence (like data recordings which are apparently gone) is utterly idiotic. Any number of things could have happened here. However, from all of that we now have a pilot (pick one at random, it doesn't matter) who was on a suicide death mission even before takeoff. It's not like pilots haven't simply been blamed before in the absence of evidence, but this one takes the biscuit.

Anyone seeing how stupid this is yet?

Comment Re:And what good would it do? (Score 0) 447

How do you even know there was a plane crash at all? Maybe the whole thing was made up? Maybe there was a crash but there were survivors but they were taken hostage. Maybe it was blown up by an American drone?

That's some real speculative bullshit by yet another Anonymous Coward in order to try and muddy the waters, but it's as good as anything we've had. Maybe the pilot was a loner or something? We all know people who aren't social are at risk of blowing people away any second of the day. The things you'd find out about a lot of pilots would shock you, but they don't start flying planes into mountain sides. Complete supposition.

If you have something to back that up then be my guest. It would certainly make a great film or a TV series. Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with how this plane crashed, and we won't know until it is pieced together and/or data recording acquired and retrieved and put together with any audio recordings. That's a bit of a slight problem considering the plane is currently spread over a few mountain sides.

Comment Re:And what good would it do? (Score 1) 447

Yes, yes it is. *rolls eyes and hopes segedunum will get a clue*.

That's a great argument Mr Anonymous Coward. Pity it has nothing to do with what I've argued nor is there anything there to back it up.

You realize every time you post, it becomes clearer how little you know about any of this stuff, right?

I realise every time I post the logical fallacies in response start increasing and the comments get shorter. Speaking of which:

I'm sorry if the pilot was your friend or something, but let's let the investigation close out before you continue trying to discredit everyone else except him.

Eh? No, the pilot wasn't my personal friend nor any other relation to me, so......you're now reduced to ad hominems.

Oh, and yes, let's let an investigation close out before.........I don't know, we start character assassinating a pilot and his personal background through the media without establishing how the plane crashed first - a process which can take months, or years in terms of piecing together the wreckage of this aircraft.

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