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Comment Re:as the birds go (Score 0) 610

"leave this place as somewhere to discuss the technology on it's own merits."

How do you discuss the technology on its own merits when those claiming superiority of a given technology rely on a bunch of soft metrics and "social costs" which are highly debatable? My electricity bill in CA is 3X the national average because of energy policies PUT IN PLACE BY POLITICIANS. California wants to fight climate change. How does that make any sense when China can freely bring on dozens of new coal plants every month? Some of us are trying to figure out how to put our kids through college while policies PUT IN PLACE BY POLITICIANS are costing us thousands of dollars a year in higher energy costs.

Comment Leo Tolstoy (Score 1) 427

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth, if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." ~Leo Tolstoy

Comment They're getting desperate... (Score -1) 708

...as their climate models have failed spectacularly at predicting future warming. Now we're supposed to believe the "missing heat" is hiding at the bottom of the Atlantic. CO2 is already at saturation levels as a GHG; it does not necessarily follow AT ALL that more human CO2 emissions will warm the planet. CAGW is, and always has been, about getting the uninformed to reduce consumption via confiscatory pricing and/or taxation of fossil-fuel based energy.

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