This, and the fact that it's impossible to know if you are conversing with a person, or ten persons in replies. Noise != conversation.

I'm not sure what OS and version of Chrome you are running, but mine never crashes (though I use Opera and Firefox primarily). In fact I work for a pretty large company who uses Google apps for just about everything. While I miss Visio (Google Drawings is like "dia" and very primitive) everything else works just fine.. no crashes, no memory hogging, etc..

The reason I don't use Chrome is because I don't trust Google, and in most companies I have freedom to choose my web browser.. where the office type applications are not nearly as flexible in Corporate world.

And as for Microsoft's whining about not having access to the OS layer of Android to run it's applications, I suggest they learn what the application layer is and learn to live in it. Having access to every layer of the OS today is why they are still insecure after well over a decade of security people telling them to fix their stuff.

The history of Germany, France, England, Spain, Russia, Cambodia, China, Korea, Rome, Athens, Egypt, and that list could go on and on. In other words, it's not possible to provide a citation for basically the complete history of the world since the advent of Governments.

Surely we could nitpick about all of the various problems Governments have caused, but that big government leads to the ends of societies is not questionable with even a cursory understanding of History.

Oh, and before you try it.. Revolts that lead in restructuring a government (and beheading of old rulers) that retain the name does not imply that those governments are still the same.

I realize your original intent, I was agreeing and not intending to be argumentative.

You ignored my question. Is someone that wrote a "Hello World!" program competent enough to understand a Web browser (using your example).

If I take your first post at it's word, a person can not understand anything that happens unless they write code. That measure as given is completely arbitrary, obviously skewed to make you appear to be all knowing. Give me something to measure that is fair, and I might actually (and probably would) agree with you.

The pompousness comes from your original perspective: You are a coder so nothing that happens is a mystery on a computer. Unfortunately as written that is complete BS, and you know it. Writing something like a Browser is a massive undertaking, so you are just as stuck as the non-coder unless you can make time to figure things out. In other words, the mystery is there for you too but you seem to refuse to acknowledge it because of your chosen line of work and arbitrary measurement. And maybe you write Firefox, but then a Kernel is a "mystery" by your standards.. or a Network protocol, or a Word Processor, etc...

It's not just these type of environments that are strict. Well established companies have the same practices, because the only way to have controlled growth is to adhere to a set of standards. Sure, standards change over time but not quickly. For posterity, controlled does not imply restricted.

If there were gangs out killing cops, they would not be in need of an application like Waze to do it. The two NYC cops that were killed a couple months ago were not tracked by anything. The killings were by what appears to be a vigilante that wanted to kill "any" cop.

They psychology behind that is a different thread and story, but the point about being "tracked" is valid. Cops drive in marked cars and wear uniforms. Someone actually "hunting" them would not need an application. In fact it would probably be stupid to do so, because of all the data the application tracking (it would limit suspects).

Haha, of course you immediately jump to the false accusation in an attempt to try and salvage your original failed logic. Of course you can't rationally back your original bullshit, so have to resort to additional fallacy arguments to support your original.

For your information: I have had 0 accidents, 0 tickets, and been driving for over 30 years. If I was a "road-rager", I would at least have had something happen in over 3 decades of driving. I'm not the "slow" guy either, because those guys get into at least as many accidents as the speeders (and most studies show that they cause more accidents).

I gave the points where you were wrong. Invalid generalization, therefor your logic is also invalid. There is no way to salvage broken logic, so scrap your opinion and start over.

Understanding how something works does not require in depth knowledge of the "something". I know many people who are very competent with the use of a web browser and never wrote a line of code in their life. They check links in email, write their own rules for sorting mail, etc.. etc...

I did not take your last paragraph as a "c'est la vie", I perceived it as an insult to anyone knot a coder. Re-reading, I still perceive it that way due to your choice of wording. You never wrote a database from scratch, so how can you possibly understand one given your own definition? Or does writing a "Hello World" program count as enough "knowledge" in your mind so that technology a person uses is not a mystery?

For posterity, I get your point but it's written in very pompous language. A person does not have to be a coder to be intelligent, a person needs to be intelligent to be intelligent.

Get in line.

I was in particular referring to John Taylor Gatto, and I forget the lady who was the original secretary for the original department who wrote a great book on the corruption and nature of the original program. That people believe it accidental that all of these extreme liberals have been running the department since it's advent is remarkable in my opinion.

I'm not sure how long ago this was, but in the last 5 years rent has gone up an average of 17% a year. Maybe in the Moffet and 101 ghetto something would go for 1.5K today, but I'm a skeptic.

"I" was not performing the experiment, it was ex police and no officer was named in their request. They simply asked the Desk officer "How would I file a complaint against an officer?". There were no departments that provided the information, and the majority almost immediately started to intimidate or threaten to arrest the person asking the question. A few departments did arrest the person asking.

If you were half as intelligent as you thought you were, you would have reserved comment on the test until you actually read the test. Instead, you spout invalid information in complete ignorance, while pretending to be knowledgeable. Fact checking, learn how to do it! Arguing an opinion which is contrary to facts is exactly the definition of delusion.

In addition to fact checking, contemplate really hard on that part I wrote about the appeal to emotion.