The reality being that most of China has no knowledge or approval of these things, and punishing them is silly. And the hypocrisy is that there are plenty of US agents engaging in espionage.
That's good. I'd hate to be punished for all the stuff my government is doing supposedly in my name.
I think it makes the most sense to use a central bank and government. It has its downsides, I will not deny that, but the downsides for all of the private methods are worse.
Except when they aren't, of course. Argentina sets a low bar.
Can you think of *ANY* that are remotely feasible on matters that a 911 emergency response team would be dispatched to?
Absolutely, Joe Paranoid is sure the government is listening in on his conversations, so he gets a NSI phone to protect himself from Big Brother. Later he sees a bad pile up on the highway and tries to phone it in.
Why would someone reporting that somebody is having a heart attack be less likely to report it if they knew that their identity was more likely known?
Because they're worried about picking up a fine like their buddy, Thad did. Thad was just asking where the ABC store was. If they'll fine you for that, who knows what else they'll fine you for.
That's been my point all along. You can't really crack down on casual 911 abuse, except in egregious cases, because otherwise you scare people away from legitimate use. You don't want any such considerations getting in the way of someone's life.
While actually holding people accountable, even if you don't necessarily always issue the fine, at least to some extent diminishes the number of abuses that would otherwise certainly occur.
But it would create other problems. And I'm just not seeing here a sufficient reason to block NSI phones unless there really is a lot of abuse coming from these phones. Most people are complaining about things like butt-dialing or people trying to solve mundane, non-emergency problems which is not exclusive to these phones.
The aforementioned post suggested that with the existence of such fines, people may actually hesitate to call 911 in the event that they believed someone was having a heart attack, so yes... you did imply it.
Yes, I still believe that. And yes, I don't believe that that extends to:
And somehow *I'm* just engaging in rationalization and trying to generalize a worst case scenario as common?
Moving on, you still miss the point. Sure, currently there are fines and such, but almost no one triggers them, even on phones where they can be traced. If you shift to a regime where you try to enforce that sort of rule, then the kind of idiots who make frivolous 911 calls in the first place will start hearing about people who have to pay the fine, but either won't hear or won't understand the context behind the fine. That situation is a disincentive to call 911 in an actual emergency. Hence, my concern about prioritizing enforcing the rules over getting emergencies reported.
I notice that the real problem seems to be lack of funding of emergency services rather than any actual problem with nuisance calls. That may be combined with an ulterior motive from the US federal authorities to get rid of NSI phones (or whatever they're actually called).
And somehow *I'm* just engaging in rationalization and trying to generalize a worst case scenario as common?
I have to wonder upon reading this, if you really read what I posted. I haven't said or implied that.
What you're describing is the co-opting of science to support a malicious philosophy.
In other words, exactly what the earlier poster was claiming they never heard of before.
This is why science is guided by ethics
Except when it isn't, of course.
Are you, perhaps, unfamiliar with the meaning of the word "ideology" or is your reading comprehension just poor in general?
One could ask the same of you. Keep in mind that this thread started because the original post asked what genocide and such has been done in the name of science? That doesn't imply that actual science need occur in the commission of the atrocities in question.
what makes you think it would stop someone from calling because somebody is having a heart attack?
Because they don't want to pay the fines?
True... but with a phone with an active account, the caller can be held accountable for making a non-emergency call to 911.
That's not going to happen because otherwise people will stop calling 911 for real emergencies. You don't want people to wonder if the heart attack they are witnessing is enough of an emergency that they should risk calling 911.
... and then compare the cost of living between those countries.
Why don't you do that then? And be prepared to apologize when you return?
Perhaps the overhead involved at the district, county and state levels needs to be looked at very carefully. Ask yourself, where are the nicest premises that any school district has? Probably it's the district offices.
My point here is that we already have ample evidence that we need to drain the swamp, not merely throw more money at it.
admitting that teachers are underpaid.
One would also need to admit that the US spends more per pupil than all but a small handful of countries. And that one could improve the underpaid situation by spending more on teachers and improving their work environment and less on stuff that doesn't do that.
The one day you'd sell your soul for something, souls are a glut.
