Comment Re:"is" vs "would" (Score 2) 162
The problem is precisely that this absurd interpretation of the words "criminal organisation" is used with regards to internet forums. Apparently, the fact that some people on forums might be dangerous terrorists (of the Muslim persuasion, according to the AIVD, because as we know extreme right movements never bomb anything...) means that the whole forum can be considered a criminal organisation and makes it okay to siphon up all user data, including that of innocent users.
The other problem is that the law is not adapted well to modern times. Now, the 'solution' the organisation supervising the MIVD and AIVD is advocating is changing the law to retroactively allow the previously described behaviour. This is all very strange, because this supervising organisation is supposed to be independent from both security services and is also meant to keep both in check with the law.
Ronald Plasterk, who is responsible for both the AIVD, the MIVD, and the supervising organisation, is claiming that all is according to the law (when it is not). So now various MPs are calling for a parliamentary investigation into the use of illegal investigation methods by the secret services and he is even being criticised by his own party members. Hopefully this will happen.
The lackluster reaction by Mark Rutte (the prime minister) and several other people in power is quite worrying though...they just don't seem to care.