I'm not sure if you're being deliberately confusing or if I'm being dense, but my point had nothing to do with land surface data or the problems of the IPCC. It's that the coauthor never "slammed" the author, and never "accused him of hiding data." The Daily Mail reached those conclusions on its own, and the coauthor came back and slammed the Daily Mail for sensationalizing this. Cheers.

Please provide a link to whoever else brought up the holocaust first? Pretty sure it was you. Characterize it how you want to, but it seems there was a meaningful (or at least non-WWII-related) discussion going on here until you came along.

Did you even read what you quoted?? Yeesh. She mostly agrees with Muller. So your interpretation (based on the title of the daily mail nonsense) that the coauthor slammed Muller is completely wrong (or, as you say, completely full of shit). The only thing she disagreed with him on is something about hurricanes, which she says is "not something to bother with."

Hope this helps.

No, Miller has not been accused of anything by his co-author. Read her blog and get the facts straight; hopefully the Daily Mail will come around to publishing a correction soon (though it's doubtful given the "journalistic" standard they set).

Judith Curry, the co-author in question, is not disputing his comments; the Daily Mail took her statements out of context. You can read her blog for the real story from her perspective here http://judithcurry.com/2011/10/30/discussion-with-rich-muller and the previous post; in short she says the only thing they disagreed about was the relatively minor one of interpreting hurricane data. Otherwise, she writes, "I have to say that there isn’t much that we disagree on."

The media don't always play a positive role in conversations among scientists - they tend to look for the controversial and sensational and that plays into the hands of people who wish to deny the growing scientific consensus around climate change.

Actually the headline doesn't match what the co-author said at all. Read her blog; she says the Mail took her statements out of context and that she and Muller basically agree on most of the conclusions.

Talk about deceptive titles. The Daily Mail gets it wrong; read the other scientist's own blog here http://judithcurry.com/2011/10/30/discussion-with-rich-muller/ and here http://judithcurry.com/2011/10/30/mail-on-best

Or if that's too much information for you, here's the money quote: "I have to say that there isn’t much that we disagree on."

You're the first poster in this discussion to bring up the holocaust.

For you, perhaps; for those of us who like having a decent mp3 player, it's a reason to use ALAC.

Awesome update; everything is running much snappier! And I haven't even installed it yet!!
Great job Apple!

you're holding them wrong

it depends how you hold it?

true but some of us who managed to hold off on purchasing the iPad 1 might finally take the plunge

+1, best resurrection of an annoying 10-year old troll... What's the health status of *BSD these days?

What's a XOOM?