Actually I'm stating the opposite. I'm saying that there's a good chance that people will find it easier to duck the coverage (and many people do now) and pay the added taxes rather then go through the pain of getting health insurance.
Nice effort to duck my point. I was not talking about now. My point was in response to your assertion that pre-existing conditions is a strawman. That is why I linked to sources from during the healthcare debate, not after it.
Sorry, I misunderstood when you where talking about getting insurance being quick and easy and the number of people that have insurance declining, with my statements about people dropping in and out of the insurance risk pools based on if they need it. Rather then if an insurance company will honor a pre-existing condition. You'll need to be more direct and explain to me what the number of people with policies have to do with if there's currently criteria on when insurance companies have to honor pre-existing conditions.
It'll all come down to the payout of medical costs. If initially only the sick people sign up for the mandatory health care, you can kiss affordable health insurance out the window and you'll see insurance companies going broke left and right.
But they will also be getting more inflow from government subsidies for people who cannot afford insurance.
That's what I said it'll depend on how much the medical payout is. The subsidies from the govt. doesn't equal the same amount of money thought, remember all this is assuming the fine is less then the policy would be though. That means that the company will not be re-cooping the same amount as if the person bought the policy. Not to mention that there's no way the govt is going to pass through the entire amount of the fine to the insurance company. So the insurance company will be given a token of that amount and told be happy with it and keep paying out the medical claims on everyone else.
It does depress me, though, how my fellow Americans are so unwilling to sacrifice anything to make this country better.
That has got to be one of the most ignorant statements you've made.
The institute added that in spite of the economic recession, remittances increased 9% to an estimated $305 billion in 2008.
http://www.zenit.org/article-26474?l=english
Your fellow Americans have been sacrificing time and time again. Is it everyone? No. But it still stands that donations to private charities in America far exceeds every other country.
I knew from the beginning that changing healthcare in a worthwhile way would require some time while the system adjusted. Things may even get uncomfortable. Which gives us people like you who argue to put off solving a problem that will only get worse so that you can have a few more years of comfort at the expense of the next generation. I say fix it now, and not leave it in the hands of my descendants.
A problem seems to be that it also gives us people like you that seem to confuse the issue. If cable prices jump past to the point where people can afford it, does that mean that govt has to step in and subsidize everyone's cable bill? Or do you start asking the question why the cable prices jump and address the issue of high cable prices? By allowing the discussion to shift from health care costs to who's going to pay for it, doesn't fix the problem in any worthwhile way. The issue is not people can't afford insurance, it's that people can't afford health care without insurance.