> And here's the saddest part
Yeah. Almost all forums for discussion on the internet and in real life** have devolved to using extreme soundbites and belittling the people who hold opposing viewpoints. Doesn't matter how polite or insightful or close-knit the community starts off, once the general populace arrives, the discussions become nothing but dregs.
It's now incredibly rare to find insightful "shades of grey" discussions about the pros and cons of any given approach.***
Too many people who obstinately refuse to believe that subsidizing an industry to promote advances in it's technology is useful (and who seem blissfully unaware of the subsidies given to all of the existing competing technologies such as oil and gas).
Too many people who don't understand or have the information available about the subleties of cross border power demands (I'd like to thank the people who posted tidbits of factual information about all of that).
I personally think that Japan's shutdown of all it's nuclear plants is a zealous over-reaction -- but on the other hand some of it's plants are just as old as Fukshima, and their industry and organizations definitely can't be trusted.
I've seen people claiming that "look, all the nukes are off and nothing changed", but other people point out that Germany has gone from exporting massive amounts of power to being nearly neutral in it's energy needs. I'd expect that this means someone else who used to be using clean German nuclear energy is now buying it from .... France? Burning Russian Natural Gas? I haven't seen anyone say what the net effects in total are, everyone is cherry picking their "problem boundaries" to advance their own point of view.
On top of all that my own province has it's head firmly buried in the sand. Won't build new Nukes because they are too expensive. Can't shut down existing ones because there is *no* replacement power nor enough power lines to import electricity even if there was sufficient nearby capacity. And can't build wind as fast as needed because everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) is zealously NIMBYish about "the hidden effects of having a wind mill nearby" ... cause you know ... that low frequency noise ... etc etc etc ... ( all the while driving down highways with their windows open and running fans and AC units indoors, etc etc).
Seriously, there are people in rural areas building small houses every 500m on their property and at the four corners of their properties, because the law says that no windmill can be located within 500m of a "house".
Meanwhile in Europe: http://imgur.com/HcX87
(**) I think the way people think and hold their beliefs is bleeding over and/or being infected by their experiences on the internet
(***) Hmmm, so I kinda know what news sources not to read because it'll be sensationalized BS and soundbites "trolling us" and taken out of context and lacking entirely in subtle details and shades of grey. Is there any forum out there that is similar? Where people that fall for the "trolls" or are incapable of discussing shades of grey politely and using facts - are banned, and the rest of us can sort out what's what? A place that's not entirely one side of the argument or the other? Not nuclear phobes and not anti-greenies? It's not slashdot. It's not reddit.