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Comment This is where Bitcoin will shine (Score 1) 234

...or some other cryptocurrency. As these low-cost screens come on in the developing world, those users will want access to the modern, internationally-capable fee-free (very nearly) monetary system represented by cryptocurrencies. This may make 1st-world debate about the good or evil of bitcoin (and its ilk) largely irrelevant.

Comment Re:I am here for the pain (Score 1) 85

> There will be a real bitconomy the day that real people can meaningfully run their real lives living on bitcoin. As in, can a McDonald's worker ask to be paid in bitcoin, and spend bitcoin directly on everything they need to live, from rent to transportation to food to clothing?

I already buy food and clothing with bitcoin. Rent and transportation aren't happening yet for me personally, but you can buy cars and gasoline with bitcoin in some areas and there are various landlords (and whole LOT of hotels) that you can pay with bitcoin.

Not bad for an upstart nerd-currency barely 5 years old with no political backing whatsoever.

> Your bubble is going to burst soon.

This bubble's crash is double the last bubble's peak, and people such as yourself were saying the exact same thing on the last bubble. And the one before that. Of course maybe *this* one will be its death knell....right? Or maybe you'll be weeping to your grandchildren some day about how you could have bought bitcoin when it was under $500... hmm, sure you want to risk it? Don't you want to have just a *little*, just in case it really does take off?

You think you are playing it safe by staying out. At what point do you realize that buying in has become the safe thing to do? $1,000 per? $10,000 per? When you can spend it for rent/transportation/food/clothing? Or when the grocer down the street puts up a sign, "Bitcoin Accepted Here"?

Careful now, Toshiba bought their POS systems from IBM a while back. And now they accept bitcoin. A real POS system used by real, brick-and-mortar stores, accepts bitcoin. This isn't nerd currency any more, this is becoming real.

Sure you want to miss out?

Comment Re:Bitcoin is reversible (Score 1) 85

BitPay protects its merchants from double spend risk. Problem solved. All you wait for is for the tx to appear on the network, which often takes less time than a CC auth.

Bitcoin is faster, safer, and more elegant than credit cards. Once you use bitcoin a few times to pay for real-world things, credit cards start to seem distinctly archaic.

Comment Re: Wait 10 minutes? (Score 1) 85

Have you ever tried to actually accomplish a double spend? It is not as easy as you might think.

Furthermore, BitPay protects merchants from double-spend risk. Even if you are successful, the merchant is not necessarily defrauded.

Contrast this with any form of fiat exchange -- credit card, check, cashiers' check, or cash -- where the merchant assumes all such risk.

Comment Re: Wait 10 minutes? (Score 1) 85

Yes. But a merchant can choose zero confirmations. So for example, I recently renewed some domains at register4less with bitcoin. They displayed QR code and I took a picture of it with my phone's bitcoin app. Confirm the amount, and about 5 seconds later the QR code went away and the purchase was done. No name, no billing address, no entering long number strings, just take a picture and confirm. It was simpler and faster than a CC, and there was absolutely no way for someone to intercept or steal the payment parameters and take more money from me.

Once you do this a few times, credit cards start to feel very archaic.

Now of course I could have attempted to defraud r4l, but the infrastructure required is not even remotely worthwhile for this scale of purchase. For those purchases where that infrastructure is worthwhile (thousands of dollars) then it seems appropriate to wait ten minutes. Notably, merchants in this range -- such as car dealers -- often have access to all kinds of identifying information which can be used to track you down in the event that the payment fails or is revoked. Nevertheless, they still occasionally fall victim to counterfeit cashier's checks and the like. With bitcoin, once those confirmations start layering up, there is no possibility of revokation or counterfeiting.

Comment Re:I am here for the pain (Score 1) 85

The thing you (and many others who claim this is a problem with bitcoin) simply do not understand is that bitcoin does not work in an inflationary model. If the inflationary model were correct, bitcoin would have died years ago. Bitcoin was designed around a different economic model. It makes no sense unless you look at it with the correct model in mind.

It's five years old and growing. Maybe the inflationary model works for other currencies, but the inflationary model clearly is not accurately representing the bitcoin economy.

As for dogecoin, yes, I expect we will be using dogecoin in the future. Dogecoin is the only thing more ridiculous than a deflationary crypto-anarchy to have come along, and humanity loves a good joke.

Comment I am here for the pain (Score 1, Insightful) 85

Every time there's a bitcoin story, I come here to relish in the flood of angry, embittered nerds. Too old to have picked up on the "next greatest thing," now they just rage, trolling a technology they don't know and missed out on.

Bitcoin was supposed to die years ago. Right? But it didn't. And now big names are getting on board. Shouldn't you start learning a little bit about how this works? eBay is looking at it, after all, and the founder of PayPal is watching.

If only you had bought in early, you could be taking a trip to space on Virgin Galactic, like that flight attendant from Hawaii who was Branson's first public bitcoin customer. Ouch.

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