OK, smartass, what is the evolutionary advantage for stupidity?
I suggest you ask evolutionary biologists. Specifically, go ask that group of evolutionary biologists standing over there lamenting their inability to connect with females, who somehow prefer muscularly ripped albeit less cranially endowed surfer dudes.
Am I kidding? I'm not sure.
While I'm pretty sure you're just trolling, I'll go ahead and respond.
Wasn't intentionally trolling, thanks for taking the time to write out your thoughts. I actually debated somebody else on Slashdot who took your argument to another level and said that no company should be allowed to engage in political advocacy. I raised the example of the NYT and asked if he would axe their editorial department (as far as political commentary/advocacy goes), and was shocked that he said he would. Of course, it wasn't fair to paint you with that brush...
... except
Speaking of logical fallacies : That communism snark is full of Appeal to Emotion and Ad Hominem, with just a touch of Bandwagon. Or maybe communism is just a red herring
OK, I admit to a few fallacies; thanks for useful links.
As for the rest of that comment, how does lack of ownership make my opinion irrelevant?
There's nothing wrong with you having an opinion, but the owners of a company get to decide what that company does and says.
For instance: I support Net Neutrality, should I quit my job at Comcast? I'm just a cable tech, but the Corporate guys are using the revenue I generate for the company to fight against Net Neutrality.
I certainly hear you on the monopoly thing. When a company gets that big and ubiquitous it enters a gray area where I will not be so quick to a libertarian analysis of their right to do whatever they want within the law.
Truth be told though, I'd much rather attack the problem from the other side, as proposed and discussed way back in TFA. Limit the total revenue that a politician can spend on campaigns, from all sources, and more strictly monitor gifts/bribes. Not only will this solve the root problem of Corpos buying politicians by the bucket, but it will allow the politician to actually do their jobs and legislate, instead of spending their entire terms fundraising to compete with the challenger who has nothing but free time to fundraise.
I think this will change the problem, but most likely not solve it. They will just shift the money to the fringes and advocate indirectly, which they are already doing in many ways. ("See, we're not working for Joe, we're just attacking Mary!")
Anyway, enjoyed the exchange!
But the corporation, the group, the amassed collection of people does not have rights.
Really? Two people working together lose their freedom of speech just because they happen to be working together? You will next suggest shutting down the NYT editorial department, I suppose?
CocaCola does not get a vote in November.
Yawn, straw man fallacy.
I didn't band together with the CEO of my company to accomplish something political.
You don't own the company you work for, so this is irrelevant. The rights of the company to freedom of speech should be equivalent to the rights of the owners of the company, since the company does what they say and speaks for them.
I'd wager that the vast VAST majority of Americans didn't pick their current job because of the political leanings of the C-suite (if those political leanings are even allowed to leak into public knowledge)
Who cares? Private companies are owned and run by people. Those people should decide what the companies do and say. If you want the company to do or say something different, start your own business and spend your own money. What is this, communism?
Corporations are absolutely NOT people.
Obviously it depends on the sense in which you use the phrase. In the sense in which I use it, every company is people. You can list out their names -- the owners or stockholders of the company who decide what that company will do.
English lesson time: the word "company" refers to a "company of people", i.e. more than one person joined together to do something together. In this context, a non-owning employee (like yourself) is not a member of that company.
Something like that would be obviously unconstitutional
No it wouldn't be. Once Lessig's crowd drills it into everybody's heads that it's OK for the government to block expenditure of money for political ends, then the government will proceed to do so whenever and wherever it can get away with it -- that is, whenever it's to the advantage of the current administration. This is giving government a new avenue to restrict people's political freedoms, and it will certainly be abused.
Raising money to make a political documentary that we don't like? We're gonna shut you down. Gotta get all that dirty money out of politics, you know. It's for the people's good.
So where do you think this would stop? What administration since that of Cincinattus and a few others has ever been anything other than the camel's nose in the tent?
more recent "corporations are people" lie
So you are saying that when people band together to accomplish something, they no longer have rights as people. Banded together, they may be censored by the government. They may have their property arbitrarily seized. All the normal rights of people are taken away, right?
I don't think you've thought this through. Corporations are people. They are not owned or run by robots. If you disagree with that, then you're not thinking deeply about it yet.
Karl Rove and his "maths" spending a quarter billion dollars and still loosing badly.
You are such an idiom. And a maroon. (Just kidding, of course, but there must be a numbered Fundamental Internet Law that says that online insults of other people's intelligence always contain a misspelling of some sort.)
Always draw your curves, then plot your reading.