My smart electric net cost was about exactly $16500, after rebates, including sales tax.

I can state, definitively, that if a $30,000 electric car with a 150 mile range on a single charge became a thing I'd have to consider it.

Why do you need THAT much range, daily? The lowest end electric cars already beat your price (by a long shot if you count tax rebates), and are close to 2/3 of your range "requirement".

Sort of. Gmail sort of kind of barely works with IMAP.

I admit I can't personally list the things that it doesn't do, but I know there has been discussion on the alpine mailing list many times in the past about how Gmail improperly (and purposely, from their end) follows the IMAP protocol.

Why do you "miss" anything?

Alpine's running in the Terminal window next to this one (along with Mail). I use it all the time.

Most of my work mailing lists would work FAR better as Usenet groups.

Use alpine, and you can (usually) read the rich/html part still in your terminal program. You can have it default to the plain text part, but use A on an individual message to view the rich part if necessary.. No need to pipe it through lynx. Plus, alpine does Unicode too, which can sometimes be useful (at least it's not showing up as gibberish..)

(Pine/alpine long ago was able to view the plain-text-ified rich parts, but I made the suggestion long ago for the A toggle, and it was added.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A....

Jobs and several Apple employees, including Jef Raskin, visited Xerox PARC in December 1979 to see the Xerox Alto. Xerox granted Apple engineers three days of access to the PARC facilities in return for the option to buy 100,000 shares (800,000 split-adjusted shares) of Apple at the pre-IPO price of $10 a share.[39]

So basically, Wizardry I, Death Maze 5000 kind of movement/wireframes.. (to list some personal computer games with that look).

Since you feel that way, great, stay away..

Quality of life tends to be higher?

Wait, those other places have *weather* and I can't wear shorts all year round.. That's supposed to be higher?

Who gets to decide what is "better for society"?

Society does. Society makes laws, and people are expected to follow those laws, whether or not they believe in them personally, or face the consequences. If they disagree, they should get the laws changed, and not simply break them.

If you're on iOS, you do realize you can turn OFF automatic app updates, right? (I don't remember for sure if the default is on or off.. Settings->General->Background App Refresh. There's a global on/off, plus you can turn on/off each app.)

If Tesla really wants to be a good automaker, they need a good resale value.

http://www.teslamotors.com/for...

Does that mean all we have to do is make the next music player out of a million discrete 74xx IC and we will get a write up saying how good our product is?

You'll probably sell a ton to the bozos buying vinyl, tube amps, and expensive cables, because they think they're better.

I'd say that's actually WORSE for the consumer, since now I'm sort of subsidizing the premium model, and not getting the benefit.

I'd expect the lower cost models to cost significantly less to make!