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Comment Re:The AI companies were lazy and greedy... (Score 1) 163

Artists are trained on prior copyrighted works. Musicians are trained on prior copyrighted works. Authors are trained on prior copyrighted works.

ChatGPT is trained on prior copyrighted works. And yet ChatGPT (and not artists nor musicians) is infringing?

ChatGPT generates summaries of Plaintiffs' copyrighted works -- something only possible if ChatGPT was trained on Plaintiffs' copyrighted works.

A reviewer can generate a summary of Plaintiff's copyrighted works, only if the reviewer was trained on Plaintiff's copyrighted works.

From the suit:

57. Because the OpenAI Language Models cannot function without the expressive information extracted from Plaintiffs' works (and others) and retained inside them, the OpenAI Language Models are themselves infringing derivative works, made without Plaintiffs' permission and in violation of their exclusive rights under the Copyright Act.

There's the core of the suit: They want the court to declare that the language models trained on the plaintiff's works are infringing regardless of whether the result resembles the plaintiff's work, regardless of whether the result is transformative, and regardless of whether the material was originally gathered legally.

Emphasis: the suit doesn't distinguish HOW the material was gathered, only that the language models somehow make use of it, and didn't ask permission first. They want to declare that regardless of anything else, said permission is required.

Comment Re: 1984 put on hold (Score 1) 414

At this point in the thread, I have no idea what specific thing you are saying "yes it does happen" about.

Would you clarify that? And could you provide citations to the statements and testimony of Dr Fauci that prove that point? This isn't a "I don't believe you". It's "I have no idea what point you are trying to make". Providing the citations simply shortcuts the optional "prove it" phase.

Much appreciated, if you oblige. ... Full disclosure: If you don't, I will almost certainly forget that I asked. :)

Comment Re:Both have their place (Score 1) 148

Obviously, the claim that static typing is superior is untrue.

Hmm... "Obviously." "Obviously." Right. I don't think that is the word you really want here. I think the word you want is, "I don't want to have to prove it, or point to some study that did so."

Anybody that cannot competently handle dynamic typing cannot competently write code. Anybody that strongly argues for static typing being the "one true way" should very likely not be writing production code.

Interesting that you don't say the same for dynamic typing. But I guess that would detract from your point.

Hence it boils down to these two things just being tools in the toolbox, each with its place.

You're right. And speaking as a maintenance programmer who has worked in several languages, I can say that incompetence comes in many flavors. The worst of which is the programmer who is given a hammer-shaped design and thinks all tasks are nail-shaped.

This includes deciding that dynamic typing is their be-all and end-all solution.

Two observations:

First, that over the years, Strongly Typed languages like C++ have gained dynamic typing features (auto). And that Dynamic Typed languages like Python have gained static typing features (type hints). So there is value in both approaches.

Second, from the perspective of trying to maintain 15+ year old, poorly documented Python - with the original authors unavailable or VERY unavailable - the opportunities for a Clever-Boots programmer to show their cleverness, exploiting dynamic typing without leaving clues to WTF they are doing is very great. I have considerably less difficulty understanding statically typed spaghetti code than dynamically typed spaghetti code. I've had many fewer instances where I needed to actually run the flipping code in a debugger, in order to find what type of variables are going in and out, in dynamic typed languages than I have in statically typed ones.

An incompetent will argue endlessly why one of the two is better...

What do you say about someone who has use-cases at hand to support their argument?

Comment Re:Temporary solution (Score 1) 161

Ah hah hah hah!

I know what you're thinking.
Have I filed 6 affidavits today, or only 5?

Well, to tell you the truth, I kinda lost track myself. But being as this briefcase can hold a lot more than 5 affidavits and witness statements, the kind that would blow your defamation case out of the water, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky?

Well, do ya, counsel? Do ya?

Comment Re:Dag-Nabbit! (Score 1) 235

In past years, it has been noted that Big Tax companies have offered "free filing services", where it was exceedingly difficult to get to them, where they offered excuses such as you describe for not being able to file YOUR taxes, etc. I would not put money down that they had changed their stripes.

You may have hit one of those sites.

Comment Re:Hmm (Score 2) 53

Facebook ignores robots.txt in doing so, btw..

A trivial search didn't find this information for me. Got a link?

Note: that same search said, "Google will still index the page, it just won't read the contents." If you have a link showing that google will scrape that data regardless of the robots.txt file, I'd appreciate that too.

... That's content lifted from someone else's web page.

Hmm... did they have "robots.txt" on said page? If not, is it relevant to the robots.txt discussion?

Comment Re:will be thrown out, this guy is a moron (Score 2) 84

No, they're pissed because this does a better job and doesn't fuck over the clients.

I am amused by your +5 insightful vote, given that literally nothing you've said - other than people not understanding the bills they get from their lawyers - is true.

  • Does a better job? Nope.
  • Doesn't fuck over their clients? Nope.
  • Understand what you're paying for with DoNotPay? Nope. and Nope.

Chewbacca defense: Here is this unrelated thing, focus on this.
DoNotPay plaintiffs: This thing is advertised a "robot lawyer". A lawyer is a specific thing (Words have meanings! Who knew?) No lawyers are ever involved.

Fanboy for DoNotPay all you like. Just - please - don't do it in abject ignorance of what is involved.

Comment Re: Yeah history says they will fold. (Score 1) 107

So, what's the problem?

That Google, Meta/Facebook et al. feel that they are entitled to re-publish the content that other people paid money to create, post a tiny link to the original article down at the bottom somewhere, and then use the content to rake in advertising cash that would otherwise have gone to the original content creator. ...
because by making these media outlets invisible results in them going bankrupt... ...
Especially because they kill competition...

Wow, that's quite a lot you've packed in there. And a lot of it is contradictory.

On the one hand, you are saying that (Big Tech Companies) are taking content for free. On the other, you are saying that if those same companies don't do that, (news company) will go bankrupt. So your answer is "force Big Tech Companies to take that content AND THEN force them to pay for it." Huh. I don't think that works the way you think it works.

You say (Big Tech Companies) make (news companies) invisible. And yet somehow you can still go directly to

  • https://www.nytimes.com/
  • https://www.oregonlive.com/
  • https://www.azcentral.com/local/scottsdale/

Etc... Google isn't in television news. Isn't in radio news. Isn't in print news. And yet, it is able to replace those outlets? Could it be the Buggy-whip problem? Do people want their cars in colors other than black?

... in the case of Meta/Facebook in particular news reporting was replaced by sewage like Q-Anon and other conspiracy theories.

Hmm... was Facebook creating that content? No? Didn't think so. And as for those conspiracy theories... have you been following the Dominion Voting Machine litigation news? How (Big Media Conglomerate) promoted conspiracy theories that it knew to be false?

Google and Meta/Facebook in particular should be in the business of ...

... So why would you be allowed to dictate "the business of" (Big Tech Company)? Why that so selectively? Why not also dictate "the business of" (local news company)? How about (farm corporation)? (Auto manufacturer)? (Computer hardware designer)? Where does your authority to declare "the business of" someone else stop? Once you start down that road, I'm not seeing any natural limits.

What I find most odd about your post here is that you don't once mention "local news", or how (Big Tech Companies) don't produce it. Or how many of the news outlets you cry about having closed use aggregated news sources (AP, etc) for the source of they non-local news and how many of those same news sources have shut down local reporting.

I agree to several of your points: monopoly is bad. (Big Tech Company) is outcompeting (local news outlet) in some ways. I suggest instead that (local news outlet) already started failing to compete by relying on (aggregated news sources). Internet news simply continued and exaggerated that trend. I suggest that (local news outlet) failed to compete because did not want to change its business model or its scope.

What it really sounds like is that you are saying "Google owes local news a living because it is doing better than they are". And, "they have some money. Help us take it away from them." Sounds kinds stupid when you say it out loud, doesn't it?

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