the same argument applies not just to guns, but to every single dangerous tool or piece of machinery. the only reason guns get singled out is because there is, for what ever reason, LESS of a culture of safety with them than other tools. Stupid non gun owning tv directors and movie directors are just as much to blame. The majority of true accidents that arise from guns often occur because they are mishandled ... and often in a way EXACTLY as they mimic watching it on tv or in a movie.

if more people would view them as a tool most of the problems would take care of themselves. I doubt we will ever see a complete cure of accidents, just like we will likely never stop seeing fingers chopped off from misuse or use of inferior table saws. And we probably will still read about the children that are way too young to be allowed to ride a 4-wheeler getting killed when they turn over on them. But you are correct, its a tool. A very dangerous tool that shouldnt be feared, but certainly respected for what it is capable of doing. keep the safety on, keep your finger off the trigger, and never point it at something you dont intend to destroy. Its really not much different than the safety circle training you learned in camp as a kid when they trusted you with a hatchet.

you've heard of a zip gun right? they make them in prison.. I'm pretty sure you wont find a way to require even zip guns be made with these biometrics. If someone has access to ammunition, it wont take too much work to come up with a crude but effective close-range working mechanism to fire it.

what standing army? hell our goddamn national guard even gets deployed in foreign wars now.if it werent for the armed population we'd be ripe for conquer. Our forces are scattered all over the globe, we couldn't hope to rely entirely on the military to defend the country. Switzerland understands that. Thats why their veterans are all allowed (encouraged) to keep their service rifles and side arms. Its a well-trained militia that doesnt cost them tax dollars to maintain. Our government (DHS) should stop making statements like "our military veterans are the greatest terrorist risk this country faces" and start working with them to defend the country instead of trying to make enemies of them with statements that they are a far greater threat than islamic fundamentalists.

"The fact that I can go to a local Gun Show, buy a 9mm with a 17 round clip for about $400.00 (Brand New) from a dealer, pass the background check (which takes about 30 seconds so can't be that thorough), and walk away with the gun. Then, I can walk across the room, without even opening the case, and sell the same gun to another "enthusiast", without background check and registration, for double the money. No questions asked. Haven't broken any laws. If my gun turns up as used in a crime, all I have to do is say, "I sold it at a Gun Show"."

that's not legal. In fact your background questionnaire clearly states that you are buying this weapon for yourself not with the intent to buy it for someone else. If you buy a gun with the intent to immediately re-sell it then you are a straw buyer and that is, in fact, illegal. I really dislike the term "gun show loophole" because there is technically nothing going on at a gun show that couldn't happen outside the laundromat or anywhere else.

people can object to the ease of someone who is disturbed having easy access to guns, removing their easy access isn't going to make the disturbed person any less dangerous. Its just one of many methods they can use to carry out their plot. The guy in Aurora that shot up the theater also made a lot of explosives and chemical gas weapons to use. I have no doubt that having been denied access to the rifle and pistols, his plot would have still succeeded because he would have simply used more explosives instead. Perhaps, and this is pure hindsight, fewer people died that day simply due to the fact that he chose to use the rifle over 20 or 30 well placed improvised claymore devices.

I certainly feel that those that own guns, myself being one, should have access and be required to have the best training available. However that training only serves to promote safety and prevention of ACCIDENTAL death. There is no amount of gun laws you could ever hope to pass that will do one bit of difference to someone determined to kill someone else. Murder has been illegal and yet still occurring long before the invention of the first black powder musket. Its futile to think that anything beyond addressing accidents can be fixed with rules and regulations.

suicide by car? never really thought of that... but is it still just suicide if you put a bunch of other people at risk too? I wouldnt call an airline pilots attempt at suicide mid-flight just a suicide attempt. I would call it wreckless endangerment. I dont care if someone wants to check out.. that their right. But they don't have the right to take someone else who doesnt want to check-out with them. Thats more or less a Jim Jones approach.

either that or these countries like france with a higher suicide rate must have a totally fucking insane amount of people ATTEMPTING to commit suicide and simply failing at it. Which I could be talked into believing.. If i were a cheese eating surrender monkey (aka french) I'd probably want to kill myself too.

after reviewing report after report of the BILLIONS of rounds of ammunition purchased in the last year (more than the entire amount of ammunition spent in 6yrs of conflict in Iraq) for agencies like the NOAA and Social Security Administration, I would not be in the least surprised to hear that this proposed spending increase was yet another way to buy and arm more federal branches of the government while doing nothing to the status quot of the functionality of the departments themselves. Increasing spending to a branch of government isnt the same thing as actually doing something productive, not anymore it seems. Ever wonder how, after having 3x the amount of IRS employees we did in 2008, for the first time in my living history the federal government has failed to get all the tax forms approved by jan 31st? Now all federal refunds depending on some of these forms are delayed until mid march. Included in this group is the amortization of mortgage interest.. thats no small percentage of population getting affected.

"this country and its institutions belong to those that inhabit it. Should they ever grow weary of if they should exercise their constitutional right to amend it or their revolutionary right to dismember and over throw it."

Abraham Lincoln.

but you are correct about a continental army of militia. Thats also, on record, what prevented a Japanese invasion on US soil during WWII. The idea that an invasion on US soil would result in the entire citizenship taking up cause to repel borders is something of significant value. The founding fathers wanted both a continental army and an armed citizen population. Yes its to prevent foreign invasion, it is also a check and balance to prevent the government from growing to the point where it abuses its power and returns to the type of life they had under king george.

thats because while they work tirelessly to remove your legal rights to protect yourself, they wrap themselves up in the very blanket of freedoms they want to deny you. They hire for themselves several armed security guards, often paid for by you and me. Translation: only the rich and powerful deserve to live. Everyone else is food for the rich and powerful.

do you even know what a machine gun is? Since 1984 no civilian can own or purchase an automatic weapon manufactured since 1984. Those manufactured before 1984 cost tens of thousands of dollars and hadn't been used in crimes even before the ban. In fact it was Reagan's stupid ass than banned them. 98% of all gun crime is committed with weapons that cost less than $300. If you wanted to do something about public safety, ban the models of guns that cost less than $500.

so your saying that at Sandy Hook Elementary that more kids would be alive if he had 10 round magazines? BULLSHIT .. those kids would have been frozen in fear and he had enough time to kill each and every one of them with a single-shot breach-loading rifle if he so chose. A musket would be about the only thing that would have been slow enough by the time the cops arrived on scene. Columbine did most of their killing with pump action shotguns. I can reload pretty damn fast, and if I were determined to go on a killing spree I would have a couple secondary weapons if I was short on time to do a reload. This is the same crap you can learn just watching tv shows on SWAT tactics. They talk about the jam and doing a 'change' to the sidearm instead of trying to clear the jam. Most media has a greater hand in increase in crime than any tool or gun does. It wasnt the guns that taught criminals that bleach destroys DNA evidence. Most of these crime shows do a damn good job and training smarter criminals.

pro-mags kinda suck. Often you have to take an exacto knife and trim some of the excess plastic that didnt get cut in the molding process to get the ammo to feed out the front correctly. I think your thinking of the Pmag's by Magpul. Those things are tough as hell. You can find video on youtube where they drove over them with a truck repeatedly and they still performed flawlessly.

thats bullshit.. In many states the high schools Already have armed police, they are constantly arresting and busting people for drugs. Its only the stupid granola states that ever have these problems. Ive never been in a gun-free-zone school except elementary schools and thats not a matter of policy as much as they felt no threat from a student body of 10yr olds.

nor will they be able to kick in doors and take them. Most people still serving in the military have told them they simply wont show up to work if that order comes down the chain of command. I would not have done it while I was in the service. I took and oath upon entry into the military that swore to defend THE CONSTITUTION from all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. Giving me an order to disarm the public is a violation of the constitution and an unlawful order subject to punishment by the uniform code of military justice

"I ____________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God"

The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) 809.ART.90 (20), makes it clear that military personnel need to obey the "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ.