Again, it's not that anyone says that traditional marriages should cease, just trying to force everyone to recognize same sex couples as being as morally legitimate as heterosexual couples.
Or is it a passive aggressive message to remove rights from other people?
You can't take away what they've never had. Is it a right to have the government recognize your covenant with your significant other? You are legally free to cohabit with whomever you please. Heaven knows that lots of heterosexual couples live together (sinfully, in my view) without ever registering with the Church or government.
A few points...
1) The government does recognize marriage - or it wouldn't be a discussion.
Most people who oppose same-sex marriage are against using the same term for partnerships recognized by their religious organization and partnerships recognized by the government. I personally don't care what consenting adults do together (as long as they aren't otherwise breaking the law) as long as I retain the right to view it as sinful or wrong. My sect doesn't drink coffee, but I would never advocate that coffee be outlawed. I can still teach my children that our God doesn't approve while respecting the rights of others.
2) There are legal benefits associated with that recognition - taxes, inheritance, sickbed visitation rights, etc.
I would agree that most rights associated with government recognized partnerships should be extended. I have issues with same sex couples adopting children until we can see how such an arrangement might affect the child psychologically. I don't have the evidence one way or the other.
3) Separation of Church and State. If the government is going to impose religious views, there needs to be a constitutional amendment for it to be legal and they need to specify exactly which magic man in the sky they pick to decide the rules.
The language in our first amendment is that congress can't play favorites when it comes to religions. It does not say that members of government must be void of all religion. Our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, National Anthem, and Pledge of Allegiance all reference the Almighty. Our rights are described as "God-given", meaning we didn't get them from man. The government shouldn't dictate that I worship The Flying Spaghetti Monster any more than you worship the Christian God or declare all worship illegal.
Your sect being "against slavery in 1830" does not excuse you for being racists in 1970. Your "non-profit" TAX-EXEMPT status should be lost if yuou are breaking the laws.
We weren't breaking the law. Religious organizations get to decide who to allow into the ministry. The Jewish faith only allows those of the tribe of Levi to be Priests. Catholics only allow males to be Priests. People of all races and genders have always been afforded baptism in my sect.
What's your sect? Should I be allowed to discriminate against your people? Why not?
I belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We have already been discriminated against so much that your individual actions would be insignificant. We were driven from 3 states under gunpoint because of our religious views. Indeed, we left the US in order to find peace (what is now Utah was part of Mexico at the time). In Missouri, it was legal to kill Mormons until the 1970s. The federal government enacted laws infringing on our religion, going as far as sending the army to remove our duly elected territorial governor and confiscating all our land and assets. I think I know a bit about discrimination.
Did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual or were you born that way? Why do you think someone would "choose" to be gay?
That is irrelevant to my views. As a heterosexual male, I had to control my urges until I was married. Are you saying that homosexuals are unable to control their urges? I have homosexual friends who never married (don't want to live a lie) but have remained celibate in order to avoid sinning. If homosexuals want to have sex, let them; just let me teach my kids that it goes against God's will. Same as non-married heterosexuals who can't control themselves, right?
I think gay dudes are gross, but I don't think we should allow any group to be legally discriminated against on the basis of things they didn't have much choice in. Fat people are still fair game, for now, though.
Are psychopaths born that way? Are pyromaniacs born that way? Don't we all have an urge from time to time that would go against polite society?
And in case you want to pull some false DeMorgan's Equivalency BS, Why should my natural right to hunt and kill your heathen soulless sect members for sport be restrained if my equally un-disprovable religion says it should be allowed?
Your rights end when they infringe on the rights of others.
You presume to know what is morally proper and what is sinful based on nothing but unfounded assumptions and retreat to, at best, a "magic" book for your claims. You may not mean to be a racist or bigot, but you very clearly are by your own words. I am too, but at least I'm not trying to enshrine my hate in the trappings of law or a falsely superior morality.
I am not a racist. You would be hard pressed to find a more racially diverse family in the US. I don't judge based on race or ethnicity. My so-called bigotry only goes so far as to teach my family what our religion teaches is sinful or not. If you are so thin-skinned that me calling you a sinner offends you, then you have a problem.