OpenSSL has first-to-market advantage, and anyone who hasn't evaluated the quality differences will choose the simpler license. Plus there are other alternatives, like Amazon's new SSL-in-5000-lines which is also gift-licensed.

The time for OpenSSL to dual-license was when it was the only available alternative to entirely proprietary implementations. That might indeed have funded a quality improvement.

I don't know a thing about the quality of GnuTLS or the Amazon thing. I've seen enough of the insides of OpenSSL to know it's not pretty, but am not a crypto guy and this don't work on it.

Maintaining FIPS compliance did not make anything easier. It's essentially a prohibition on bug repair, as you have to recertify afterward. But the people who wanted FIPS were the only ones who were actually paying for someone to work on OpenSSL.

I don't think any of the other Free Software projects ever tried to be FIPS certified.

If you are one of the infringed parties, I'd be happy to talk with you about what your options are. bruce at perens dot com or +1 510-4PERENS (I'm not there today, but it will take a message). I am not a lawyer but I work with the good ones and can bring them into the conversation if necessary.

As a community we've managed to almost completely ignore that because of their use of dual-licensing, MySQL made 1.1 Billion dollars after 9 years in business, and that for a database that was written by one person, and the code base remained available under the GPL.

IMO, 1.1 Billion dollars is pretty damn impressive. Especially if you get paid that to make Free Software. Heck, sign me up!

Oracle was a bad actor, and Monty is now leading further development of that same code base under the GPL. But it did not have to be that way.

How do you prove damages or have the right to settle violations if you don't have copyright?

If you have been doing enough work to justify getting paid for the software, you have an ample amount of your own copyrighted work to base your claim upon. If you haven't done that much work, what are you suing for?

You can also get a grant of the right to sue from your contributors. You can include in the agreement how you will apportion damages: for example you could take the ratio of your lines of modified code checked in vs. that of contributed code checked in, and give that portion of damages to FSF.

I see the question burned in your mind so brightly, you felt the need to post twice...

You seem to think it's OK to dislike me because of your own prejudice, so why then are you angry when other people do the same?

Because people of your worldview need such nonsense to think rationally, I'll qualify my point by noting that I personally support gay weddings, have a number of gay friends and friends of color... I'm not the bigot that your mind has formed, you are for hating what your imagination has crafted of me.

People like you think you can wave away human nature, even as your own devours your soul.

I will not answer you any longer, for you mentally are not in a place that you can be helped or even informed... If you can't learn from an exchange why should I bother?

If they are good at what they do then you don't have to like them.

You are rather an idiot if you make that choice though, if there is a choice...

For programmers there *is* a choice. You have a lot of opportunity, a lot of ability to make choices as to where you work and who with. To not exercise that choice is self-harm, degrading in the literal sense to you and your mental health.

It's not any different at all, nor is it different from someone who really hates Star Wars not wanting to hire me. That is the point, you are saying it is like , when in reality it's the other way around and your list is a tiny subset of potentials.

People can be closed-minded beyond so many of the hot-button reasons you list.

Not for me or a few others I know, but point taken as it mostly applies.

So the consequence of that realization, is that about ten years into a career, you should get a masters to reset the clock. :-)

Hmm, so THAT'S why people get a masters... always seemed rather pointless until now. It's not pointless, just expensive.

etc. you would be OK for those candidates to be rejected?

The real question is why ANYONE would want to work with people who did not like them. Who cares about acceptance when the work environment will be horrible?

This issue transcends the flamebait you are trying to push out.

Everyone WILL face rejection by people who do not like them. You can either accept that and move on or live a life of despair, that choice is on no-one but you.

You do have to get either copyright assignment or the right to relicense from your contributors, if you have contributors, or the whole scheme doesn't work. But maybe you get enough money to pay them some.

I agree with the first point, if a gap on the resume mattered it would have filtered them earlier. But....

well it's not like they didn't know her age either, they saw that before they called her too

It's quite one thing to know an age beforehand, and another to experience the age firsthand.

Although how would they know the age beforehand? It's not legal to ask and most people don't say.

I think it can easily be that in-person, the group of younger people simply does not feel as comfortable with them. It's not even really age discrimination so much as cultural discrimination because the difference in cultural experience is so large... Frankly I don't even have an issue with it, because if a group is not comfortable working with you you are not going to be happy working with them either.

Yes, writing Morse Code Software is one of the creative and educational things you can do with Morse code.

It took me 60 days to get to 20 WPM, working for a long time every day.

In contrast, it took a lot less time to write an interrupt-driven, terminate-and-stay-resident Morse Code sounder program in 6502 assembler. And I learned the instruction set, too.

I'm not saying you don't want to do either. It just doesn't belong on the test.