I not only use AdBlock and Flashblock, I use Facebook block as well. I use the "Google cache" "text-only" version to view anything semi-interesting that won't let me view it, which is pretty rare anyway.

Wastes bandwidth, chews up CPU, blasts noise at you and with 57 tabs open it is hard to tell from where, starts videos, does crappy things if you accidentally hover the mouse over the window.

And spread malware.

I use AdBlock Plus, of course. With Flashblock carrying the other half of the burden.

I am happy these jerks almost exclusively use Flash, HTML5 scares the shit out of me.

Fiat owns all of Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep.

Actually, I am *free* to try to oppress you or murder you. I just would have to accept the consequences, assuming such things were even a good use of my time which I doubt ;-) And I'm not sure how oppress anyone either, so that freedom is wasted on me.

Which, while your line of reasoning is interesting, I'm not sure how it relates to umghhh stating he believes in a "utopia" where no one hires anyone and everyone works for themselves as his idea of freedom.

umghhh's point is an oxymoron anyway.

If you are self-employed, you are working for someone just the same as being an employee. It is just the arrangement that is different. So it isn't even a dogma about philosophy, he wants to argue about what kind of arrangements are ok.

I think your talents in philosophical debate would better be used trying to clear the cobwebs from umghhh's weird contradictory logic.

You have a strange definition of freedom if you want freedom and then hate upon others who use the freedom they have to do what they wish.

Your world as described in your comment isn't freedom, it is fascism (i.e. I will tell you how to use your rights).

"Ultimate goal is to enjoy life without harassing other people all too much."

Well, you can start doing that tomorrow. You pretty much failed on that goal tonight. Perhaps tomorrow you won't be harassing others and telling them how to use their "freedom".

Exactly.

But I would most people to continue paying for cable tv. Someone has to foot the bill, making tv shows and content is expensive.

But if, say, Netflix and similar services were to ever to become the "norm" and cable tv to begin to erode, I think the undesirable qualities of cable TV would find their way into Netflix and similar services.

I don't want streaming to be loaded up with advertising, as an example. But cable tv is the main venue for advertising today and there are tens of billions of dollars in it.

The articles says it will orbit the Earth eventually.

I'm ahead of curve, as always!

I plan to be visiting Earth's second moon ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3... ) and am concerned about this while making travel arrangements. Please advise.

"So please, do enlighten all of us who clearly don't have your intimate knowledge of IP networking as to how we can send and receive data without sharing our IP address."

A centralized server.

Which is why you have no clue what my IP address is.

Have at it. Do it from sunrise to sunset.

And my point with be correct the entire time while you do it, regardless of whether or not you think attacking the conveyor of a correct and valid idea has merit.

And when your communications are routed through your DSL, Cable or Phone provider?

You seem to operate from the idea that communications network is separate from corporate control or government observation. But it isn't.

You can wish it were. It does not make it so.

Hence, your ideas aren't from a position of experience like you wish to believe, but rather inexperience. Which is my point.

I hope you learned something today.

Today you don't understand, but perhaps given enough time you might accumulate the wisdom to understand my point.

If you think the flaw in the system is the central, good for you.

You will also be ignorant of the history of the internet, but that's ok and with enough time you'll either see my point or not.

But to relate to what you understand today, I would say that doesn't anonymity contribute to a healthy internet --- even semi-anonmymity as you might understand it with what you understand --- and your idea is that this would discarded because of Boogeyman (NSA or Russians or whatever).

We have been down that road before, it didn't work. And it is okay if you don't know enough about the past to know these past attempts failed, that's just part of the learning experience.

A server in the middle that acts as a central point.

I get what you are saying, but exposing IP addresses to 3rd parties isn't typically desirable.

Case in point, I don't have your IP address. And you don't have mine.

Sure email works like that (although possibly less so in current era with gmail and such, then again maybe not), but many services don't. Sure, the service provider --- the middleman --- has access to that, but the other users don't.

A solution to a problem isn't necessarily a knee-jerk opposite solution (centralized vs. decentralized) but often some variation of an existing successful model that is slightly flawed, correcting *ONLY* the part that is flawed, not the parts of the service infrastructure that work well.

It is a legitimate concern. Mocking it doesn't allay the concern.

Well phrased.