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Comment Re:Sure (Score 3, Insightful) 104

COVID provides a convenient excuse here, so this one doesn't sound as good as the usual "Musk is a bullshit artist, WAKE UP SHEEPLE, Musk failed, AGAIN!". Sure he overpromises and underdelivers (the pricing shaenigans on Tesla website are bordering on scam sometimes). But who gives a shit, when whatever gets underdelivered is way ahead of the competition anyway. As a marketing strategy, it's certainly working well for him.

Comment Re:He just wants more labor (Score 1) 394

> "hire anyone who has a vagina and won't break too much stuff".

I see you're recruiting in the upper apex. Compromises need to be made for VC optics. Come back to MSB, we have cookies!

> Is that really helping women in tech? Filling seats with incompetent vaginas? I think not.

Yes, tokenism just reinforces resentment and stereotypes. Competent women *are* out there, but there's simply too few of em to cover the PR-quota demand within anything near silicon valley. It will cost you an arm and leg to make em come to you and meet them.

> No amount or type of support will fix that.

There are larger societal forces at play, too. I've seen recruiting in Mongolia, with one of our contracting partners, and was shocked when 3 gals and 10 guys showed up for an interview - all of em at a comparably competent on level. This was both because of rampant sexism (depressing demand for women), but also due to having less of a "politically correct leg up" in the market causing applicants to actually be more invested in tech career, as everything else is really poorly paid - in eastern cultures, tech is one of the few fields where women get a chance based on merit, with less sexism.

Comment Re:I don't think women should avoid tech (Score 1) 394

> hiring decisions so that they can show their decisions aren't motivated by race or sex.

That much is true - for a SMB, who always somehow end up with a sausage fest because that's the supply side of the labor market. If you want more women in male-dominated field, you have to spend more money, like FAANGs do.

Comment Re:He just wants more labor (Score 1) 394

No, I never mentioned anything about inflation - if anything, that is the single thing that doesn't really pick winners, wage wise. My whole point is considering tech market in its entirety, not just the tip of the iceberg of it. Sure the top skews the perceived salary average, but they're effectively the top 5% of the entire industry here.

This is important wrt gender equality - the top 5% hiring women is just a good PR, not a tangible change that would actually move the labor market.

Comment Re:He just wants more labor (Score 1) 394

> He just wants more labor

Every field wants to drive cost of labor down, not just tech, ie not really a good reason for women to avoid tech as such. I think it's more sinister here - in an industry-wide occuring 50/50 gender ratio situation, women routinely ask for lower salary (impostor syndrome). But in male-dominated fields, women can ask for far more if they're quota hire, albeit only to a point due to glass ceilings. Meaning women *do* have much easier ride in tech, on average, compared to men, for as long you're a quota hire.

This is why it's interesting to push for 50/50 gender spread across the entire sector as a long term investment. Doing it for one's own company is PR that doesn't save you any money, quite the opposite, due to artificial scarcity induced by hiring quotas.

Comment Re:He just wants more labor (Score 1) 394

> The pay goes down every year?

It does, but ironically because the labor force expands as asia is entering the sector - both as H1B, and global non-US tech market. While parent's view is skewed by racism, your view is skewed by seeing only the FAANG apex in HCOL areas. But there's other end to that - the immense long tail near $25/h average wage.

Comment Re:Also how 4chan works (Score 1) 173

Quite often though it is a pure fluke.

I'm not talking about qanon here, but the ability to differentiate from trivial bullshit like qanon. Think about it: You're an insider, and have something you absolutely want to leak. Big new conglomerates are not interested, or would delay it for months. Where else can you go?

Comment Also how 4chan works (Score 4, Interesting) 173

It always surprises journalists how /pol/ is supposedly about "conspiracy theories only", yet frequently able to get the scoop. Guys on there are exposed to bs on near constant basis from each other, meaning everyone and everything is mistrusted as a troll or astroturfing, while legible and hard evidence are rapidly followed upon.

Sure there's a large population of terminally idiotic qanon worshippers, but that just comes with the territory - not everyone makes it through the thick skin training.

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