It would be quite interesting to see all the removed words, that is, to see what the lists the other schools gave you that were trimmed down. I find this interesting lest from the perspective of is the list an useful tool for managing the students, and more as a window into what sort of language passes for common usage in kids email and/or what language administrators think needs to be prevented. So again if you could post up the list of all the words you had to trim out from the lists that other schools sent in I think that would me something very interesting to see.

thanks

Sure - I remember my Dad's 30 year old radio, a Philco model 60 from 1936. Those thirty years were the the golden age of radio I caught just the tail end in the late1950's.

His cathedral radio glowed in the dark, thanks to 5 vacuum tubes and an incandescent dial lamp. Took a minute to warm up (boot?) thanks to the 6 volt filaments and sagging line voltage (the thing drew 60 watts just idling). Superhetrodyne tuning of the AM broadcast band gave it a response from perhaps 50 to 2000 Hz, give or take 10 db. Stereo? Naw it didn't even have FM (though you could tune in shortwave broadcasts from Moscow)

Fidelity? Well, the Lone Ranger theme came boomed in just fine, as did Jack Benny, Elvis, Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis, Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and the Big Bopper. Nothing like staying up late to tune the latest releases from WKBW, CKLW, or WABCs Cousin Brucie. Or joining the Night People to catch Jean Shepherd on WOR after midnight.

I've heard plenty of music since then, on vinyl, cassette, 8-track, CD's and mp3 -- great stuff! But I miss the excitement of stalking the elusive Rock and Roll station...

Well I am glad to hear they work for some people, but it is only online that I every encounter such people as yourself.

The issue isn't the dimmers, they fail in the non-dimmed sockets as well.

One of the issues I think is that all most all my lighting is overhead so the bulbs get too hot probably. However most of those are floods so they presumably should have been built for such locations. But I have had the bulbs fail in completely open fixtures. I've tried different styles from different makers. Whatever it is they don't work. Again maybe its the nature of the power supplied to my home, whatever it is, I don't care, trying to make me use something which doesn't work. And to make me use it for the wrong reasons is just wrong, pure and simple.

As for mercury from coal plants, well the emit lots of radiation to, but that doesn't seem to bother people, but the point source radiation from a site in Japan seems to have well as truly freaked people out. The same it true of CFLs, the amount of mercury the nearest coal plant subjects me to is quite insignificant, while if I break a CFL in my house the exposure will be quite a lot higher, and that is the difference and the issue.

I will let Mr Dickens opine on that decision..

If the law supposes that, then the law is a ass, a idiot! If that's the eye of the law, then the law is a bachelor. And the worst I wish the law is that his eye may be opened by experience.

Seriously, I know what it says, but truly if you give a whit about the limitations on what the government can do that has to have been one of the worst decisions of the court, up there with Kelo v. New London. The application of Kelo is just offensive each time it is used, Wickard is pernicious in the almost limitless power it grants to congress which they are happy to use at every turn.

Yeah, unfortunately LED lights don't have an infinite lifespan, they degrade over time getting dimmer with age, so you will have to replace those as well

5 years ago I rebuilt my house and decided like you to try and switch to CFL's I put them in all the sockets I could. Which turned out to be not as many as you would think, pesky thing those dimmer switches that had been installed to let me not run my lights full bore all the time. Oh yes eventually I was able to get the much more expensive dimmable CFLs. My wife can't stand the color of any of them, drives her absolutely up the wall. And of course I didn't know about the mercury in them at the time.

Unlike you however, I have seen these things fail at the most incredible rate. I have incandescent bulbs and regular long FL tubes that have not been replaced since the house was rebuilt. I have CFLs that I have replaced 2 or 3 or 4 times....... at which point I gave up entirely on them, I spent more money on replacing CFL, especially the freaking expensive dimmable ones then I probably would have spent on life bulbs for the rest of my natural life. I know of no person who I have ever spoken to who has had a different experience. Whenever I see someone posting how they switched over to CFLs and never had a single on fail in years, I assume you are some paid shill with an agenda, or the 1 person in a 100 who statistics has blessed with CFLs that actually work.

Let me make this clear, if you have CFLs and they have not failed..... YOU ARE ALONE IN THE WORLD!!!! Just because they may have worked for you, does not mean they work..... they don't

If the vote on this bill fails today, I will be calculating just how many bulbs I will need for the rest of my expected life duration and going out and buying enough cases of light bulbs to get me that far. Forget about the lower price or how the heat generation will help prevent global cooling...... the fact that the environmental lobby isn't out trying to pass laws against the evil mercury filled CFLs tells me all I need to know about what abject stupidity has taken hold of people.

Can you seriously believe that forcing the entire country to use bulbs filled with mercury which the WILL NOT be disposes of properly can possibly be a good idea? No it can't, unless you have so thoroughly drunk the global warming koolaid that there is no hope for having rational discourse with you.

I was thinking of sending this to some law blogs, it seems certain they are, and will be, ripping people off with this practice, looks like a custom made for class action.

But rather than winning me a coupon for $0.10 off my next movie I'd like to see them get a prohibition on taking back a movie once I paid the rental fee, which is to say not allowing rental under terms that amount to permitting them to retroactively un-rent the movie

so apparently /. is the only place in the world where in a "whose is longer" contest, the objective is to lose?

In one of those odd connections of fate, I remember reading The Cuckoo's Egg, and having an email conversation with Cliff Stoll about the generating function that Robert Morris discussed with him at the NSA..... and Cliff's response of "hot diggity!" when I managed to work it out. And then a few years later I wound up as a fellow grad student of RTM, which resulted in meeting RHM and hearing some fascinating stories, that the times article refers to as "still classified" about his work in the first gulf war. Indeed the usual /. bad jokes in this thread are even more troll than usual.

jon

p.s. hi cliff

Whoops = replace Robert H. Morris for Robert T. Morris. My mistake...

Yes, I met and worked with Robert T. Morris in the late 1980's.

During 1986 and 1987, I had tracked a computer intruder from our systems in Berkeley California, through a complex trail, into Hannover, Germany. Using a honeypot, we were able to show the involvement of the E. German Stassi and a rather mysterious Bulgarian connection. I testified at the intruders' trial in Germany.

As the investigation wound up, I visited the National Computer Security Center (a part of the NSA), and met Robert T. Morris. Of course, I'd known him from his Unix/Bell Labs days. With a cigarette in his hand, we talked extensively about password security and the need to go beyond simple encryption of the Unix etc/passwd file. (At this time, salts & rainbow files were in the experimental stage). He was convinced that encryption was needed for many more processes than just logging into a system.

Later, Bob Morris encouraged me to write up my experiences in a paper, "Stalking the Wily Hacker", which was published in the April 1988 CACM.

Robert T. Morris was one of the computer pioneers who foresaw the troubles of unsecured computers and networks. He recognized that it wasn't possible to simply isolate a computer from the network -- that a computer's power was multiplied when connected to others. And his work in applying cryptographic protection to data foreshadowed much of today's efforts in computer security.

All of us owe Robert T. Morris a debt: our systems and networks work better and more securely because of his work.

May he rest in peace.

-Cliff

Well there is always Arvind [ http://csg.csail.mit.edu/Users/arvind/ ]

  now you have heard of two

For the insects its not an STD, its a DTD..... Dining Transmitted Disease.... or I suppose it could be an STD.... Snacking Transmitted Disease?

The main problem with patents is the damage they cause??? Why do you argue for changing the process at all if what you really want is to eliminate them all together?

Also your example misses the point, the reason why issued patents are considered valid and you have to generally go to court to fight them is *because* you can't just grant them to yourself and because the procedure is difficult and therefore issued patents are assumed to not be obviously invalid.

You must have no idea how hard it can be to actually get a patent. Just because some patents shouldn't have been issued does not mean getting them is easy. Forget the 1-click patent for a minute, if you can only think of one example out of the tens of thousands of patents that issue each year, maybe just maybe the problem isn't patents, or rather if you were to try and make sure there never was a 1-click patent then there would never any useful patents issued. And really what are the odds anyone would have noticed the 1-click patent before it issued?