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Comment Re:Only Two Futures? (Score 1) 609

One can only hope. But we face the long hard task of the individualistic libertarians out there coming together in large enough numbers to begin to make a difference.

The irony is that the one thing too many of the Republicans and Democrats agree on is that the citizens have too much liberty.

I do sense a growing swell of "leave us the fuck alone" coming from the citizenry in many aspects of life. It is a message neither the Dems or Reps will acknowledge.

Perhaps libertarians can rise, but I worry it won't happen.

That sounds like the Individualists' Union.
" Republicans and Democrats agree on is that the citizens have too much liberty." Yeah; one party believes there is too much liberty to marry a partner who is not of the proper gender, the other party believe there is too much liberty to release gigatonnes of ______ (select element or compound of your choice) into the environment randomly, to save a buck. Same difference, eh?

Comment Re:Only Two Futures? (Score 1) 609

Most people I know (I'm in my early 30's) have grown utterly disgusted with both Republicans and Democrats and are now more-or-less libertarians. I think it's a trend that will grow as more and more people realize that both Republicans and Democrats have utter contempt for civil rights and personal choice.

Most people I know are utterly disgusted with libertarians. Chacun a son gout.

Comment Re:Only Two Futures? (Score 1) 609

I'd be curious to see if the population of disillusioned independents is growing faster as well. I'd speculate most of them would be categorized as "moderates" which is a species rapidly disappearing, sadly from both political factions. I for one count myself among them, both parties have developed fundamental show stoppers that make it impossible for me to vote for either candidate in presidential elections. I don't at all consider my vote "thrown away". A vote for a 3rd party is a vote against both, it still counts and enough of them should garner attention for more moderates eventually.

Sadly, no. It does send them the message, but it's a message that doesn't matter to them.
Consider: the actual election itself boils down to which party can send out an image that best registers with the centroid of American public sentiment. The existence of other parties on the fringes has the same effect as individuals too fed up to vote; i.e., it takes votes away which otherwise would have been cast for the one of the two major parties closest to that voter's philosophy. (And no, they're not identical. That's just a sound bite, which is impossible in reality, if for no other reason that there are different people in each party).
But worse: given the electoral college system and the winner take all electoral delegations of most states, the majority of states are a lock for one of the big two parties or the other, so it makes no difference if even a very large number of voters decide to sit it out. The only states that matter are the swing states.
And, just to add to that, the electoral representation of the states isn't directly proportional to population, due to the favoritism for small states baked into the system, so even if you live in a swing state, whether you cast a vote for one of the big two, or another party, or just sit it out has a different effect depending on which state you live in.
I'd say to have the most effect on the government, you need to influence a party's candidate selection process. That's the point where money, efforts, etc for a given candidate has a direct effect; moving to another candidate, or just bailing out, has a distinct negative effect for the candidate you'd otherwise back, and sends an unmistakable, unignorable message. Once the two candidates of the two major parties have been named, the majority of Americans might as well just go take a nap until it's all over and they get notified who the undecided voters in the swing states have chosen for them. Which is kind of scary, given that undecided voters are more than likely idiots.

Comment Re:Only Two Futures? (Score 1) 609

You mean jack income tax rates up to 90%? Half kidding, but I'm curious what you see about the differences between Democrats now vs. JFK era.

IIRC the 90% marginal rate was under Eisenhower. And I'd be all for returning to that!

Indeed; America's best growth years economically were under unbelievably tax rates for top brackets, and the slowdown of growth has been largely correlated with the reduction of top interest tax rates. Of course, it's always possible that it's an accidental correlation, but it sure doesn't demonstrate that high taxes kill the economy at all. In fact, it does suggest that the current conservative implicit philosophy, that poor people need to be motivated by taking things away from them while rich people need to be motivated by giving them more, is precisely backwards. Which is just as likely to be the case as not.

Comment Re:Only Two Futures? (Score 1) 609

My parents never talked politics. They never mentioned who they were voting for. Or even IF they were voting.

That pretty much amounts to child neglect in my eyes.

Why would somebody neglect a child in your eyes? Does your ophthalmologist know about it? Safety glasses could keep them out, but be sure the parents don't neglect them in your nostrils, or ears.

Comment Re:Only Two Futures? (Score 1) 609

It boggles my mind, the extent to which U.S. culture only sees two different possibilities. It makes me want to take up smoking and jogging just to see if anyone's ears start bleeding.

The US sees things in totally binary/Manichean. Democrats vs Republicans. Liberals vs Conservatives. Red state vs Blue state. North vs South. East vs West. AFL vs NFL. Yankees vs Red Sox. Us vs Them. Good vs Evil. Iphone vs Android. Communism vs Freedom. Bush vs Clinton. Apple vs PC. Free World vs Tyranny. Sunni vs Shiite. Islam vs Everybody. Hatfields vs McCoys. Earnhardt vs Gordon. Ford vs Chevy. Pearson vs Petty. Israel vs Arabs. If you ain't with us, you is with the terrorists.

Comment Re:Great. Let's sit here and wait for the next wav (Score 1) 422

I wouldn't mind a rational, reasonable conversation on the topic, but instead you've got "its not happening so don't do anything" screamers... "Well screw it, if the world is ending, we might as well enjoy ourselves..." - well, lets all be so totally selfish and not think of others - great for our children etc "If it ISN'T ending, then perhaps we shouldn't derail our economy in the process of trying to improve the environment..." what economy is derailing, the banks did that. There is a new industry starting to replace the old. Things change and move on. "Yet all we hear about are electric cars and solar power, neither of which make any economic sense." eh? new tech is ALWAYS expensive at the start, wind power is already cheaper than coal, solar is getting cheaper. http://www.theguardian.com/env... "Why spend money on something that has a payback period of more than 5 years when we have easier solutions right in front of us that have a payback period of as little as 1 year?" - short term thinking is detrimental to long term solutions. the payback on things like solar is shortening all the time

150 years ago, radicals attempted to do away with the major source of energy in southern US against the frantic resistance of those living there, who were terrified that ending slavery was just a pipe dream as there was clearly no economically viable replacement. those who rode the slavery horse until its death did in fact fare poorly, but on the whole, other forms of energy were found and the south did not in fact become a third world subsistence economy after all.

Comment Re:Great. Let's sit here and wait for the next wav (Score 1) 422

The only risk greater than man made global warming is the risk that man will try to stop global warming. Sure we are influencing the climate and we should try to reduce that influence. On the other hand, I don't see any good from experimenting with intentional manipulation of the climate OR from crippling the poor's access to energy and standard of living in order to reduce that influence outweighing the possible negatives of a warmer climate.

the third world poor aren't burning a lot of diesel or gasoline. their burning of sheep dung or whatever doesn't come from fossil fuels and doesn't result in a net increase of atmospheric CO2.

Comment Re:Great. Let's sit here and wait for the next wav (Score 1) 422

Oh, the climate models are quite good for the region I live in. Austria collects weather and climate data since more than 250 years already, so we have a pretty good timeline of climate conditions since the 18th century. If I remember correctly, yearly weather reports started in 1736, very important for a society depending heavily on agriculture. And tell you what: Average yearly temperatures have risen two degrees Celsius since the start of the weather records. And that includes the Year Without a Summer 1816 (probably caused by the volcanic eruption of Mount Tambora in 1815).

It's not as if the rising temperatures are something just recently discovered or somehow recalculated into the past. It's something that has been observed by several generation of scientists now.

Even more fundamental than that; earth's temperature is 30 degrees warmer than would be predicted by our black body radiation balance and our albedo; compare to the moon, for instance. Which is right about what CO2 absorbance in the atmosphere would predict; as was calculated by Svante Arrhenius over a century ago, at the birth of greenhouse gas theory. Those who believe that this effect will stop right at this temperature, despite added CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, have a lot of explaining to do.
Despite the argument that the onus is on AGW believers to provide proof, in fact any well established mechanism is not subject to this law. The onus to provide proof is not on those who believe if they turn on the light, the room will become brighter; the onus is on those who are 'skeptical' of that to explain why it would not. And providing examples of other things that provide illumination rather than the electric lights does not in the slightest count as such evidence.

Comment Re:Great. Let's sit here and wait for the next wav (Score 1) 422

Read the IPCC reports to answer all your questions. It really is that easy.

To your average denialist, the IPCC report is like a reverse Bible. Whereas the Bible is true, which is proved by the fact that it says it's true, and that must therefore be true; on the other handm the IPCC report is a lie, and therefore they don't have to read it to see what's in that might be a lie, because it's a lie.

Comment Re:Great. Let's sit here and wait for the next wav (Score 1) 422

Nope, deniers aren't skeptical. A skeptic even wonders if THEY are right, and are willing to change their mind in the face of evidence, instead of hunting for some third-hand anecdotal report that might possibly indicate a vague problem or issue with the evidence for. Then assumes it's true and the evidence for AGW being real is faked.

That's not skepticism. That's denial.

The distinction of denialists is that there is nothing that can, could, or would convince them to change their minds. Some of the more obtuse ones will cite this as a badge of pride; "There is nothing that will convince me that AGW is real". If you press denialists, asking "What piece of information is missing? What data would cause you to change your mind re the reality of AGW?" they will dodge the subject, giving an abstract answer like "convincing proof!" or "scientific proof!" or ask for something impossible, like a controlled study of planetary climates holding all factors except CO2 constant, or similar. Ideally, of course, this is determined a priori; the evidence required to establish probability is defined, the experiment is done to find that evidence, if it exists then the hypothesis is considered valid, otherwise it is considered insufficiently proved. Although this is more honored in the breach in reality, at least scientists will be able to tell you what evidence would convince them regarding any hypothesis, even if they're still just piling up observations. Every scientist knows that it's always possible to look at any amount of evidence for anything and say "Nope, not sufficiently convincing." even if everybody else on earth is convinced; so that point of view is not respected at all.

Comment Re:Great. Let's sit here and wait for the next wav (Score 1) 422

of climate change deniers.

Of course, we're not going to do anything about the problem. Of course not.

What exactly is a "climate change denier"? Is that someone who denies that the climate changes? Would you be so kind as to point to a specific example of someone who has actually said the climate hasn't changed, isn't changing and won't change? I certainly don't know of anyone who is that stupid. (Although, it does seem that some people think the climate shouldn't change and that, because it is changing, that's a Bad Thing. But those aren't the skeptics.) Or by "climate change denier" do you mean someone who doesn't believe in future predictions of disaster? If so, could you explain how someone "denies" a future prediction? One either believes a prediction or doesn't believe it but it hasn't happened so there is nothing to "deny" or "accept".

"Climate change denial is a denial or dismissal of the scientific consensus on the extent of global warming, its significance, or its connection to human behavior," https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
There. Boy, you sure got some strong opinions for somebody who doesn't even know the definition of the subject under discussion.

Comment same old same old (Score 1) 507

So, there's a brilliant programmer or programmers who can and do create and negotiate their own path by constantly juggling the requirements, the current state of the project, the gap between where it is and where it wants to be, within their heads at all times, while keeping the code clean and readable. And you want to convert your organization from reliance on one or a group of these talented programmers, so that you'd have to quit the business if anything happened to them, into one where the talents and knowledge and wisdom and good habits and skills and styles and diligence are all built into the processes so that mediocre programmers can do good work by just adhering to processes; and good programmers will find these processes are in accord with what they're doing anyway and not be hindered. Ha! Welcome to the dilemma of every organization, ever; making the leap from a bunch of talented people pooling their talents into an organization where the talent is built into the structure/function of the organization. If 5% organizations make the leap successfully, I'll be surprised.

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