Comment Re: Vivaldi is no KDE project (Score 1) 33
No, it's not a "KDE project", but it is a KDE tablet, i.e. a tablet running KDE.
Cool, then a Nexus 7 with Plasma Active is also a KDE tablet and my laptop is a KDE laptop, not a Samsung laptop...
No, it's not a "KDE project", but it is a KDE tablet, i.e. a tablet running KDE.
Cool, then a Nexus 7 with Plasma Active is also a KDE tablet and my laptop is a KDE laptop, not a Samsung laptop...
A handful of KDE developers decided to found a startup together. Vivaldi is their personal for-profit project. And quite frankly: They suck at it.
Plasma Active works just fine on quite a few Android tablets already (eg. Nexus 7).
Since Win8 there are also quite a number of x86 tablets on the market. Plasma Active should also run on them with a regular Linux distribution.
The irony here is that Mir, which is is seen as a huge competitor to Wayland, could end up helping Wayland enourmously since Canonical doesn't seem to be afraid to pick up a phone and call people at AMD/Nvidia to talk about updating the drivers.
Take a minute or five and browse nvidia.com.
What you'll discover is that for GPGPU business NVidia officially only supports the latest OS releases by three companies: MS Windows Server, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.
What you won't find is official support for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
And while it's a pretty safe bet that RHEL 7 won't support Wayland (it's said to be based on Fedora 19), it's certain RHEL 8 will support it and NVidia will support RHEL 8. The chances are high that NVidia will "beta test" the drivers on Fedora before the RHEL 8 release.
What you are asking for is called Network Transparency. In Wayland and Mir it is being sacrificed for the sake of looking prettier.
If by "looking prettier" you mean anything more fancy than monochrome rectangles, then yes. However anything more fancy than monochrome rectangles isn't network transparent on X11 either. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44 for details.
AFAIK, RDP lets you see the entire remote screen, not the windows of a single program.
And yet even though Wayland is backed by 'giants' like Intel and Red Hat, it still doesn't have more than $400,000 available to the project.
Canonical has been dumping a lot more money into Mir.
I'm interested where you got those numbers from. I gave an extensive list of references, you gave none.
Considering that Canonical is still losing money (see above), it may be very plausible that Shuttleworth will at some point stop "dumping a lot more money into Mir".
Soon these Desktops will need wayland. so they need to run wayland on Xmir to run Xfce. Have a lot of fun...
I don't see a real problem with just ending Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.
Despite PR talk, Canonical is not interested in them. If Canonical was, Mir would not exist and Wayland would be used as originally planned.
There are many fine Linux distributions that ship Xfce etc.
That makes no sense at all.
If I understood the mail discussion between Mir devs and others correctly, the display manager would "just" need to both Wayland and Mir to switch between a Wayland and a Mir session without reboot. The problem is that nobody wants to add Wayland support to LightDM (Canonical is not interested and anybody else would be required to sign the CLA and hand over all rights to Canonical which nobody wants) and nobody (incl. Canonical) wants to add and maintain Mir support in the other display managers.
What's outdated about X11? And no, the presence of old API calls for backwards compatibility does not make it outdated.
Answer: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=x_wayland_situation&num=1
Making significant headway with Mir, it probably won't be long till Red Hat hires this Canonical developer out from under them to put a kibosh on the project.
Significant headway? This is just X11 and Mir side by side using XMir. Something like this is possible with Wayland since at least a year, maybe even since 2011. For proof of running X11 applications under Wayland via XWayland see the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/waylandweston/videos
Is there going to be an X12? Some of the main X11 devs are working on Wayland. Have any thought about doing an X12?
X12 just was a tentative name for some imaginary future replacement. Even though there were some X12 ideas docs in the past, the reality is that Wayland the the de facto X12.
I appreciate the fact that Ubuntu has made dealing with video drivers easy, and I imagine working with Valve has given them some insight to what they think is needed.
Mandriva added easy driver installation to Linux way before Ubuntu's Jockey even existed.
Canonical also does not develop drivers, therefore I don't get how you think it matters what Canonoical may know what's needed. So far the FOSS drivers were developed by AMD (radeon), Intel, Google (Gallium-based Intel drivers), SUSE (radeonhd), and Red Hat (nouveau, radeon, and more). Canonical never ever even touched GPU driver code.
Canonical still owns Lubuntu & Xubuntu, but Kubuntu has been handed over to Blue Systems.
Blue Systems pay for Kubuntu but the Kubuntu trademark is owned by Canonical.
Blue Systems have their own Linux distribution called Netrunner which, for the time being, is based on Kubuntu.
You've got quite a selective memory there, bud. The only parties that are hurling Molotov's are in the Wayland and KDE camps (mostly from the deranged kwin dev).
The mere existence of Mir is "hurling Molotovs" at Wayland: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxODA
To claim that anybody other than Canonical started that "war", is simply lying.
When it is incorrect, it is, at least *authoritatively* incorrect. -- Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy
