I've been trying to avoid the /. beta...

But it appears that now it's being pushed onto us more deliberately.
Yes, I have to agree with most posters here:
The beta sucks bigtime...
I could write quite a bit on why, but really all you have to do is compare it with the ./ we have been using.
This new one is really annoying.
Blocky, smashed together...

I thought Reagan died in 2004...?
Thats ok though, you can keep up your "good fight" as long as you can, and look like the tool you are, because the renewable energy juggernaut has nothing to do with hippies or environmentalists. It has everything to do with being self reliant and putting less carbon into the atmosphere.

Right, and they(the 1%) know that.

That is why they have been successfully dismantling the unions in the US and the rest of the world since the 1980's.
Unless more of this information comes to the forefront of American culture and Media, it will slide in "under the radar" and then it will be too late to bring back unions.

Who the freek modded this up?

I logged in just to reply to your... let me clear my throat... WWWHHHAAAHHHHKK!!! (ahem) post.

Well, first off, you FAIL on a global scale in your assessment by making the black/white all/nothing argument.
EPIC FAIL

"One side says drugs are cool"
What?!?! Where did you hear that from?
It's obvious you have no knowledge of this debate or the reasons behind it.

Oh, and I'm a huge Hunter S. Thompson fan, but one area of expertise I would not trust his insight into is drug policy.

A persons proclivity towards drug "abuse" is almost completely attributable to brain chemistry.
You're scared to go to jail, and that stops you from doing meth!?!
Are you freeking serious?
Tweekers could give two shits about jail. Meth permanently rewires the brain and how it responds to pleasure. Fear of jail vs. drug "abuse" is a bullshit morality view of this issue and doesn't belong in a reasoned discussion.

Not if it's Peter Jackson's version of The Hobbit.

Yea, I concur. Great story/idea. I think Marshall Brain's ideas and writing about how our society will be changed by computers, robots and AI is the most accurate portrayal I've read.
It would be a great film, but the idea behind it is too radical, to close to home, as it were.

It would be a wake up call for the working people of the US, and that is the last thing the Kochs and the Devos family want...

Jobs? They will go away, along with what is left of middle class prosperity and the "American Dream".

Who will benefit from such a change in society? The ones who always do, the 1%(or whatever you want to call them)

Actually, we are going to migrate our Oracle environment to Linux(which in the past it was on originally). We also use linux for other things like Cacti, Nagios, Snort, Splunk, etc;

Also, take the time to read what I wrote. I didn't say we, or anybody else "designs environments" to run on Linux(whatever TF that means...). What I said is that the "the software in question, along with pretty much everything else we use is designed to run on either Windows or Linux." This means that, as I said, much of our software can run on either of those platforms. I'm a huge proponent of Linux and have been using it since the late 90s.

I actually worked for several years doing support for software that ran on SCO OpenServer and SuSE so you can take your "MS shill" tag and shove it up your ass.

I have to support Apple devices in an AD environment, and yes it is a PITA. But, with that being said, I don't think total homogeneous technologies in an Enterprise make sense. It is a good thing to mix things up... But I think the Surface Pro is more of a work device versus an iPad or Android tablet.

Correct.
My mistake that I realized after posting and I knew I would be caught. Yes, Surface Pro is what I meant.

We have recently purchased a Surface to test with some LIMS software we use, which currently runs fine on W7. We were told it wouldn't run on 8. It has been discovered that it does in fact run on 8 and runs fine on our Surface. We are going to to test using Surface tablets running 8.1 in our environment. So far so good.

Are we running this on iPads or Android tablets? No.
Why?
Because the software in question, along with pretty much everything else we use is designed to run on either Windows or Linux.

I could draw a conclusion here that Surface tablets will make in roads into the Enterprise for exactly this reason. Yes, yes, I know there are thousands of iPads in Enterprises right now, with all manner of executive and administrative staffers trying to look important at work with their tablet, while busily updating their FB status. However, I feel that because of MS's entrenched position in the Enterprise the Surface is more of a "work" device than an iPad or Android tablet.

Right.
Thats why roofers, electricians, plumbers, mechanics and lawyers never get any work...

Nice!

Tell that to Kurzweil.

You've never experienced heated tile/radiant heat I see... No forced air "whooshing" sound constantly as your poorly insulated house has to constantly kick the thermostat on. Just quiet... No more replacing furnace filters, having the gas company people come over and check your furnace every fall...

I hate to break it to you, but current home building technologies aren't designed to save energy very well. Since gas is cheap homes aren't designed well and people just crank the heat in the winter and the ac in the summer. Convenient and very inefficient.

You should try using this thing called the internet, and particularly Google and Wikipedia. Go ahead, it won't hurt.